New Living Translation (©2007)
"Then Jesus said to them, "The Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people, and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath."  

"Humanism. “Any system of thought or action concerned with the interests or ideals of people … the intellectual and cultural movement … characterized by an emphasis on human interests rather than … religion.”— Webster’s Dictionary

IMO Jesus was a Humanist.

May 15, 2012 -- 1:43AM, GRobit625 wrote:

www.secularhumanism.org/

May 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, Nino0814 wrote:

The Bible is full of hideous examples of human violence and depavity in the name of God.  I would not recommended it as a guide for morality.

I do not understand how anyone living today can believe in God who cares (or cared) about what fabric humans sewed together, if people eat shell fish, or if people of the same sex take pleasure in each other's bodies.   IMO a God who was literally above the world He directly created may have care about such silly stuff, but not the God who is the ground of being of a vast universe, and perhaps multi-verses!  A simple rule of human compassion and social justice should be sufficient.  Certainly the God depicited in the Bible was not always a good example of compassion and justice!

Then, Nino, your involvement with a Christian body is an exercise of futility and hypocrisy.

Why don't you use your Sunday mornings to get some extra rest?

May 15, 2012 -- 10:16PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 9:18PM, Roodog wrote:

May 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, Nino0814 wrote:

The Bible is full of hideous examples of human violence and depavity in the name of God.  I would not recommended it as a guide for morality.

I do not understand how anyone living today can believe in God who cares (or cared) about what fabric humans sewed together, if people eat shell fish, or if people of the same sex take pleasure in each other's bodies.   IMO a God who was literally above the world He directly created may have care about such silly stuff, but not the God who is the ground of being of a vast universe, and perhaps multi-verses!  A simple rule of human compassion and social justice should be sufficient.  Certainly the God depicited in the Bible was not always a good example of compassion and justice!

Then, Nino, your involvement with a Christian body is an exercise of futility and hypocrisy.

Why don't you use your Sunday mornings to get some extra rest?

I can't imagine that very many Christians have not questioned the same issues that Nino has raised, other than some of the Fundies.

You too are invited to take your rest on Sunday morning.

May 15, 2012 -- 10:42PM, GRobit625 wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 10:16PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 9:18PM, Roodog wrote:

May 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, Nino0814 wrote:

The Bible is full of hideous examples of human violence and depavity in the name of God.  I would not recommended it as a guide for morality.

I do not understand how anyone living today can believe in God who cares (or cared) about what fabric humans sewed together, if people eat shell fish, or if people of the same sex take pleasure in each other's bodies.   IMO a God who was literally above the world He directly created may have care about such silly stuff, but not the God who is the ground of being of a vast universe, and perhaps multi-verses!  A simple rule of human compassion and social justice should be sufficient.  Certainly the God depicited in the Bible was not always a good example of compassion and justice!

Then, Nino, your involvement with a Christian body is an exercise of futility and hypocrisy.

Why don't you use your Sunday mornings to get some extra rest?

I can't imagine that very many Christians have not questioned the same issues that Nino has raised, other than some of the Fundies.

But it's true. If that is where he truly arrived at, then what is the point? Why waste your time acting like you are affirming something every Sunday that you truly reject? Just stay in bed like other people do. At least have some integrity about your life.

Blind acceptance is not TEC. That's RCC. A person who has not questioned the Creeds or any of the doctrines would have to be comatose.

May 15, 2012 -- 11:04PM, GRobit625 wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 10:55PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 10:42PM, GRobit625 wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 10:16PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 9:18PM, Roodog wrote:

May 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, Nino0814 wrote:

The Bible is full of hideous examples of human violence and depavity in the name of God.  I would not recommended it as a guide for morality.

I do not understand how anyone living today can believe in God who cares (or cared) about what fabric humans sewed together, if people eat shell fish, or if people of the same sex take pleasure in each other's bodies.   IMO a God who was literally above the world He directly created may have care about such silly stuff, but not the God who is the ground of being of a vast universe, and perhaps multi-verses!  A simple rule of human compassion and social justice should be sufficient.  Certainly the God depicited in the Bible was not always a good example of compassion and justice!

Then, Nino, your involvement with a Christian body is an exercise of futility and hypocrisy.

Why don't you use your Sunday mornings to get some extra rest?

I can't imagine that very many Christians have not questioned the same issues that Nino has raised, other than some of the Fundies.

But it's true. If that is where he truly arrived at, then what is the point? Why waste your time acting like you are affirming something every Sunday that you truly reject? Just stay in bed like other people do. At least have some integrity about your life.

Blind acceptance is not TEC. That's RCC. A person who has not questioned the Creeds or any of the doctrines would have to be comatose.

"Questioning" is one thing. Outright dening and effectively saying screw it is quite another. I haven't seen him affirm anything. Only break it down into pieces.

Sorry. I don't feel qualified to require anyone's affirmation, acceptance, indulgence, or humble submission. That's the kind of stuff I leave to my superiors. I've exceeded my bedtime.