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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 10:04AM #1
Emersonbernard
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I know some Catholic nuns who are quite distressed about this:

www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/ethics/vatica...
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 11:56AM #2
journeying
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We need an Episcopal ordinariate especially for women religious. I wonder when the pope will finally get around to attacking Joan Chittester.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 12:22PM #3
Roodog
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The RCC has their rules, always have and always will..


If you don't like rules, there is always TEC.....Undecided

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 1:48PM #4
Dutch777
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Apr 19, 2012 -- 11:56AM, journeying wrote:

We need an Episcopal ordinariate especially for women religious. I wonder when the pope will finally get around to attacking Joan Chittester.




Shel,


A year or so ago the RCC Abp. of Los Angeles sold a convent, as well as other properties, to help pay-off the court assessments against his diocese due  to sex abuse cases.  Nuns were given 30 days to pack their bags and ship-out.


A local convent of TEC nuns --- I forget which Order; perhaps someone here knows --- took them in and is now housing and feeding them.  I say "bravo !!!" to our nuns.


I agree with our own "Ordinairate" for fleeing RCs, but isn't our liturgical practice so close to the Roman/Latin rite that any difference is negligible ?  I'm all for a pro-active & effective & publicized outreach to disaffected RCs, including the Ordinairate of your suggestion.  

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 2:59PM #5
RJMcElwain
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I love it. It seems that every time the Vatican does something stupid like this, our numbers take a pop. We should run ads in the National Catholic Reporter.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 12:02PM #6
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I was shocked when I read the article. Is the nun's national conference a private organization? If it is I would tell the Vatican that and that it will be controlled by members according to their constitution and bylaws and  that they will not allow others to control it. If a nun has done something wrong then her religious superior is the proper person to perform an investigation and issue correction. To me it seems like political pay back.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 2:37PM #7
Dutch777
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 12:02PM, Rhartsc wrote:

I was shocked when I read the article. Is the nun's national conference a private organization? If it is I would tell the Vatican that and that it will be controlled by members according to their constitution and bylaws and  that they will not allow others to control it. If a nun has done something wrong then her religious superior is the proper person to perform an investigation and issue correction. To me it seems like political pay back.




Consitutions & bylaws count in a democracy.


The RCC follows a different model of governance.


www.votefraud.org/stalin_voting.jpg

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 3:12PM #8
Jupiter6208
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Apr 19, 2012 -- 12:22PM, Roodog wrote:


The RCC has their rules, always have and always will..


If you don't like rules, there is always TEC.....Undecided





I have to agree with you on that Roo if you don't like the rules and you knew of the Rules don't join up or go somewhere else. kinda simple really...

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 4:41PM #9
journeying
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Seems to me it's an old rule superceded by prejudice. The nuns follow Jesus. The pope is extremely homophobic and would love to rid his church of that sin. Of course, it isn't a sin while ignoring the poor is. The pope needs to reread the red parts of his Bible - if his Bible has red parts.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 8:54AM #10
journeying
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The church where I attend Bible study is only a few miles from Joan's convent. The conversation last night included converting the downstairs in the church temporarily then looking for a house to buy to house the nuns who leave the RC Benedictines down the road for the Episcopal Benedictines. That church has a great sense of evangelism and humor.
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