Mostyn,

You are so obviously more familiar with the office of ABC than I am.  Just how is he selected?   I do know that at some point in the process QE2 becomes involved.

Dutch, the process of selecting a new Archbishop of Canterbury is rather complicated.  The steps are as follows, and the process can take up to almost a year! Since the Queen is now in her mid-eighties (she'll be 86 in April) it is very likely that the next Archbishop of Canterbury will be the one to preside at the coronation of Prince Charles, they'll really take all the time they can to choose the right man for the job. I say "man" advisedly. They're only just getting used to the idea of women as bishops in the Church of England.  

The Archbishop of Canterbury lets the Queen lnow that he intends to resign.

The Queen accepts the resignation, and calls together the Privy Council (a group made up of  former Prime Ministers, cabinet ministers and other notables which acts as an advisory committee to the Queen). The Privy Council announces that the See and Archbishopric of Canterbury are about to be vacant.

The ball is now back in the Archbishop's court, and he makes his resignation absolute, and announces the date on which he will leave office.

The Prime Minister appoints the Chair of the Crown Appointments Commission, which will oversee the selection of a new Archbishop of Canterbury.

The Vacancy-In-See Committee of the See of Canterbury (which includes at least one member of the Diocese of Canterbury) meets to define what characteristics, talents, and skills would be needed in the next Archbishop and produces a document called a Statement of Needs. The Vacancy-in-See Committee also chooses four members of the Crown Appointments Commission.

The Crown Appointments Commission is formed, comprising the Chair, the four members chosen from the See of Canterbury, three clergy and three lay members chosen by General Synod of the Church of England, and two episcopal members chosen by the House of Bishops of the Church of England. (In addition, the Secretary General of the Anglican Consultative Council, the Archbishops’ Appointments Secretary and the Prime Minister’s Appointments Secretary are non-voting members, but they certainly have a say in the discussions leading to the choice of a new Archbishop.) Please note that every member of the Crown Appointments Commission is a member of the Church of England (with the exception of the Prime Minister's Appointments Secretary, who doesn't even have to be a Christian, let alone a member of the Church of England!) This method of choosing an Archbishop applies only in the Church of England. Archbishops, Bishops and Deans in the rest of the Communion - including Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales - are elected by their General Synods. 

The Crown Appointments Commission meets, following an extensive consultation and information-gathering process. The meeting continues over two and a half days—in three phases: Review of background material; Consideration of candidates; Shortlisting and voting

The Commission sends two names to the Prime Minister for consideration.

Assuming he is content with them, the Prime Minister commends a name to the Queen. (If he or the Queen so wishes the Prime Minister may request a further name or names from the Commission).

The Queen contacts the chosen candidate and once he has indicated a willingness to serve, the name of the Archbishop-designate is announced from Ten Downing Street (the Prime Minister's residence) The Archbishop-designate is presented at a follow-up news conference.

The Dean and Chapter of the Diocese of Canterbury formally elect the new Archbishop of Canterbury and the election is confirmed in a legal ceremony. (Note the Diocese and the See of Canterbury are two different things. The Diocese of Canterbury is in the See oif Canterbury, and the See of Canterbury is all of the southern half of England from the Midlands south. From the Midlands north to the Scotrtish border, one is in the See of York .)

The new Archbishop takes up office and is later formally enthroned at Canterbury Cathedral.

Mar 18, 2012 -- 5:25PM, christzen wrote:

Mar 18, 2012 -- 5:04PM, GRobit625 wrote:

Mar 18, 2012 -- 11:59AM, christzen wrote:

Mar 18, 2012 -- 2:38AM, GRobit625 wrote:

Mar 17, 2012 -- 11:47PM, christzen wrote:

Mar 17, 2012 -- 9:46PM, GRobit625 wrote:

 But just because others believe that it isn't wrong isn't going to silence others that do. No one is going to "shame" me into shutting up. Sorry, that doesn't work on me.

 

I completely understand that.Condemnation and judgementalism is too ingrained a part of some folks religious makeup for them to simply focus on their own spirituality and let others do the same with their own lives.

Just so you know, new guy, I don't go around beating people upside the head in my largely liberal parish. They never ask my opinion on things and this is why things are so peaceful. I just don't give my affirmation when they mention this stuff so they already know how we feel about it all. My participation in anything besides weekly Mass is minimal at best.

 

That's nice to know.But since I do not know you,my comments are based soley upon posts you make here.

Exactly, which is why the appropriate thing for you to have done is to make a thread introducing yourself so you can learn about the posters here rather than spouting off without getting the whole story of someone's views and the actions they actually take in real life. Think about that next time.

Nonsense.Your posts speak for themselves,unless you are saying you post things that you don't really mean.I have no need to tell you my life story,nor to hear yours, to read and assimilate your posts.I know some people,notably dutch here if I remember correctly (I've been around before and come and go a lot) are big on the whole personal info thing,but your words communicate your thoughts,and personal knowldege of you is not needed.

Or in other words,what about you do I need to know to properly grasp the "lick the shoes of the homosexual lobby" comment?Was that comment not self sufficient on it's own?

We don't have anything further to discuss then. I won't respond to anything else what you post, take care to extend me the same courtesy.

Mar 18, 2012 -- 6:23PM, Mostyn32 wrote:

Could we get back to discussing the matter of Abp Rowan Williams' resignation and our conjectures as to who might succeed him? If you quys want to squabble, take it elsewhere. 

I have no qualms against that. Someone wanted to make it personal, I responded. As far as I'm concerned it's done.

York and London may be too old. CoE clergy must retire at 70.