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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 8:29AM #1
holst
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Have you all been following this silliness about the Rapture happening this evening?

Harold Camping, the 89 year old President of some group called 'Family Radio' has been predicting it to happen today.  This has been his prediction since his last failed prediction which was in 1994.

He says that tonight at 6pm it will all get underway.  It will start with an Earthquake like we have never seen before, followed by destruction 'beyond measure'.  If you're wondering what time zone it will start in, I've heard that it will start at 6pm wherever you are

Supposedly Camping has this big Biblical equation or formula that proves that this will happen. 

What are your thoughts on this?

The Bible is clear on the subject: no one shall know the hour or the day, not even the angels in heaven will know.

That pretty much settles it for me.

Do you guys even think that the world will end in any way foretold in scripture?

Many people have been poking fun at Camping and his followers, but I think it's actually a really sad situation.  For many years now these people have put all their spiritual eggs in one basket, and pinned all their hopes on this one day.  When nothing happens tonight, how will they all feel as the hours and days pass?  Will they lose their faith? 
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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 8:33AM #2
Redbaron
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It's already tommorow in New Zealand.  I haven't heard of its disappearing yet.  I think we're safe for the time being.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 8:40AM #3
holst
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Maybe there are just no true believers in New Zealand. 


I have also heard that Mr. Camping and his followers have already concocted an excuse for when nothing happens.  They plan to say that God listened to his people and decided to show mercy.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 11:36AM #4
Dutch777
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May 21, 2011 -- 8:29AM, holst wrote:

Have you all been following this silliness about the Rapture happening this evening?


I've listened to his drivel on "Family Channel" a half dozen times.  ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Harold Camping, the 89 year old President of some group called 'Family Radio' has been predicting it to happen today.  This has been his prediction since his last failed prediction which was in 1994.


Ain't dat de coconuts !!!  Check out "William Miller" and his end times predictions for 1848.  He had a large following; they even wore "ascension robes" and gathered at some hill in Vermont for the Big Event.  Nothing happened.

He says that tonight at 6pm it will all get underway.  It will start with an Earthquake like we have never seen before, followed by destruction 'beyond measure'.  If you're wondering what time zone it will start in, I've heard that it will start at 6pm wherever you are


As I've previously posted, the biblical predictions don't refer to the end of the world.  They refer to the passing of the Olam ha Ra, the evil age, to be followed by the Olam ha Ba, the good age.  This means the inauguration of the MLKT YHWH, the Kingdom of God, right here on earth. 

Supposedly Camping has this big Biblical equation or formula that proves that this will happen. 
He's a numerologist rather than biblical scholar.  He has zero biblical or theological education.  Maybe he should take up reading tea leaves.  My Jewish grandmother was quite good at that.
What are your thoughts on this?


It's total BULL$#!+.

The Bible is clear on the subject: no one shall know the hour or the day, not even the angels in heaven will know.


That's correct.

That pretty much settles it for me.


Me too, and for every reasonable Christian.

Do you guys even think that the world will end in any way foretold in scripture?


The bible never addresses the question of the "end of the world", period.   The bible addresses the establishment of the Kingdom of God right here on a solid, healthy earth.

Many people have been poking fun at Camping and his followers, but I think it's actually a really sad situation.  For many years now these people have put all their spiritual eggs in one basket, and pinned all their hopes on this one day.  When nothing happens tonight, how will they all feel as the hours and days pass?  Will they lose their faith? 



P.T. Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute and I'm out to get him".   Fringies are so gullible; they eat up bull$#!+ spread by con artists and loonies.  That's life.

Walk Your Own DharmaPath; be awake.

The Socratic Standard:  Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 4:31PM #5
Spokang
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NPR had a piece this morning on some of the followers of Camping.  One example: a couple from New York quit their jobs and moved to Florida to pass out doomsday flyers.  They have no jobs and they have used up all their savings.  Oh, and they have a young child and another on the way.  I could care less for the parents, but I hope the reporter contacts them tomorrow and asks what they now plan to do to provide for their children.


Are doomsday prophets unique to the US? Does this happen elsewhere?


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 7:04PM #6
Dutch777
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May 21, 2011 -- 4:31PM, Spokang wrote:

Are doomsday prophets unique to the US? Does this happen elsewhere?




Jim:


I think Canada and Australia have a few wacko cults on-hand, but otherwise the USA has cornered the market on religious lunacy.

Walk Your Own DharmaPath; be awake.

The Socratic Standard:  Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 7:19PM #7
WannabeTheo
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May 21, 2011 -- 4:31PM, Spokang wrote:


Are doomsday prophets unique to the US? Does this happen elsewhere?




South Korea:


articles.latimes.com/1992-10-29/news/mn-...

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 7:39PM #8
Dutch777
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May 21, 2011 -- 7:10PM, Nino0814 wrote:


Mark's Christian community believed that the end of the world and Christ would return in their generation, and Paul believed Christ would return in his life time.


Nino, that 's Not the end of the world but the end of the current age.  The Messianic Age would be installed here on earth, an impossibility if the earth were eradicated.


Miller's followers survived "the great disappointment", and most Christians believe that the Bible can foretell future events; yet the Church goes on, and it will for those who followed the interpretations of Camping.


I'm a Preterist, so I believe these prognostications are largely past history.  Most Christians don't know a helluva lot about scripture anyway --- especially those fundies who mindlessly parrot scripture without understanding.


 





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The Socratic Standard:  Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 8:24PM #9
slu_magoo
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Damn, damn, damn!


So 6:00 PM passed an hour and twenty minutes ago.  Nothing happened.  I was patient.  I figured maybe it was a time zone thing.  (After all, Central time is an afterthought to the tv networks; everything revolves around Eastern time.)  Anyway, as 7:00 PM approached, it became clear that I WAS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THE LUCKY PEOPLE RAPTURED AWAY TONIGHT.


So I'm stuck--left behind--here in this lousy Nashville apartment complex with all the other losers who weren't among the chosen few.  I'm headed to Publix in a few minutes for some ice cream--a way to make myself feel better about being such a heathen and a way to kick off the six months of hell that just started and that will eventually lead to my total annihilation.  The people at Publix are so nice.  I fully expect that they will all be gone when I get there.

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2 years ago  ::  May 21, 2011 - 9:03PM #10
Spokang
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Oh no!  A volcano has erupted in Iceland. And it just struck 6:00 pm here in Washington.  It all downhill from this point on. I think I'll have a rapture cosmopolitan and a few canapes and await the inevitable.
www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/05/21/icel...
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