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2 years ago ::
Sep 01, 2010 - 6:15PM
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Hello BB!
Graham like sooooo many, keep planting seeds of malcontent.
Even if in ignorance, they are wolves in sheep's clothes. Roaming and looking to devour the weak.I think you are using a bit of hyperbole there, BB. Why do you think Graham is that way? He seems rather tame to me.
You find them in everything to do with power or wealth; so, religion and politics are always rife with them. They like the letter of the law more than the simple law of love Jesus gave. That ways, instead of serving man; man serves the law and subjugates himself to the clever, but unwise. They attend church to prey, but their loyalty is not to the whole or holy; it's to the little self and its delusions. They also like habitual responsees and genuflexions to hide in whilst on auto pilot. BB, he may not be my cup of tea but don't you think you are going a bit overboard here? What did he do that was so rapacious?
The reason the broad brush smeared Katherine? A Faker put her name out for that purpose. I cannot see that Graham said anything about Katherine. He only made a few remarks about Barrie the O and his religious views and none of those were critical.
They think they're clever, but eschew wisdomCan you define "wisdom?"
Kimball
They divide instead of unite. What was the one thing Jesus hated? Please see Matthew 10:34,35, 36 Which Jesus are you following? "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father....and a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Are you sure that the scriptural Jesus would be accepted in your church?
Kimball
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2 years ago ::
Sep 01, 2010 - 6:05PM
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I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not.
But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish.
Kimball
Hello Praj:
So, what are the two churches you are involved in and who is the legitimate head of it?One is a traditional TEC parish and one is traditional independent Anglican. The Anglican church has a very good bishop but we seldom hear from him because he trusts us. Ho Ho. The TEC parish seems to have a good bishop but he is also rather "hands off" in his style.
This is from TEC's website concerning what the role of the PB is:
Since 1943 the Presiding Bishop has been required to resign diocesan jurisdiction upon election. In 1967 the duties of the office were significantly enhanced. As “Chief Pastor,” the Presiding Bishop is charged with initiating and developing church policy and strategy, speaking God’s Word to the church and the world, and visiting every diocese of the church.
Almost sounds alike a government job description. All we need to add is "other duties as assigned." Of course, in a serious vein this brief description has to be viewed in context of the General conventions and the authority of all of the bishops.
Kimball
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2010 - 12:57PM
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Graham like sooooo many, keep planting seeds of malcontent.
Even if in ignorance, they are wolves in sheep's clothes. Roaming and looking to devour the weak.
You find them in everything to do with power or wealth; so, religion and politics are always rife with them. They like the letter of the law more than the simple law of love Jesus gave. That ways, instead of serving man; man serves the law and subjugates himself to the clever, but unwise. They attend church to prey, but their loyalty is not to the whole or holy; it's to the little self and its delusions. They also like habitual responsees and genuflexions to hide in whilst on auto pilot.
The reason the broad brush smeared Katherine? A Faker put her name out for that purpose.
They think they're clever, but eschew wisdom
They divide instead of unite. What was the one thing Jesus hated?
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2010 - 1:14AM
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I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not.
But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish.
Kimball
So, what are the two churches you are involved in and who is the legitimate head of it? This is from TEC's website concerning what the role of the PB is: Since 1943 the Presiding Bishop has been required to resign diocesan jurisdiction upon election. In 1967 the duties of the office were significantly enhanced. As “Chief Pastor,” the Presiding Bishop is charged with initiating and developing church policy and strategy, speaking God’s Word to the church and the world, and visiting every diocese of the church.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 8:40PM
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I am an orthodox Anglican and she is not. Orthodox Anglicans exist within and without TEC. Kimball
So, then who do you believe is the head of your Church? I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not. I suppose I have to fall back on Ralph Waldo Emerson when he stated that a dogged consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. HO HO HO But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish. Kimball
Hello Litany:
Do you pray for "Katharine, our presiding bishop" in the Prayers of the People or not?Yes, but I probably should do it more often and more earnestly. And I am not being flippant or rhetorical here. It is so easy to "mouth" the prayers of the people without really putting one's heart into it. We all probably need to work on that one; at least I do.
Kimball
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 8:36PM
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I am an orthodox Anglican and she is not. Orthodox Anglicans exist within and without TEC. Kimball
So, then who do you believe is the head of your Church? I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not. I suppose I have to fall back on Ralph Waldo Emerson when he stated that a dogged consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. HO HO HO But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish. Kimball
Hello Litany:
Do you pray for "Katharine, our presiding bishop" in the Prayers of the People or not?Yes, but I probably should do it more often and more earnestly.
Kimball
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 8:34PM
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FG needs to reconsider his thinking. He is doing the opposite of what his father dis, which was to build bridges , while preaching the Christian message. If his faith is that exclusivistChristianity has a strong element of exclusivity to it. See John 14:6
maybe I wouldn't want to be a Christian.Maybe you don't like the message of Christ.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 5:20PM
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I am an orthodox Anglican and she is not. Orthodox Anglicans exist within and without TEC.
Kimball
So, then who do you believe is the head of your Church? I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not. I suppose I have to fall back on Ralph Waldo Emerson when he stated that a dogged consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. HO HO HO
But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish.
Kimball
Do you pray for "Katharine, our presiding bishop" in the Prayers of the People or not?
"The centrality of our mission is to love each other. That means caring for our neighbors. And it does not mean bickering about fine points of doctrine."- ++KJS
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"We are to be Christ's hands and feet and heart and mind and we cannot do that if we assume God's role of judgment. The judge's job is filled. God alone is judge! Those who would be Saviors of the Church and the people in it are also reminded that the Savior's job has been filled. Jesus Christ filled it once for all. "- Bishop Rodney Michel
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 4:59PM
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FG needs to reconsider his thinking. He is doing the opposite of what his father dis, which was to build bridges , while preaching the Christian message. If his faith is that exclusivist maybe I wouldn't want to be a Christian.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2010 - 4:19PM
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I am an orthodox Anglican and she is not. Orthodox Anglicans exist within and without TEC.
Kimball
So, then who do you believe is the head of your Church? I am involved in two different churches. One of them has a legitimate head and the other does not. I suppose I have to fall back on Ralph Waldo Emerson when he stated that a dogged consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. HO HO HO
But seriously, Praj, I can't see that the head of a denomination has a ton of bearing on what happens in a local parish. Months and Months go by with nary a mention of the name of the Presiding "Bishop". The PB is just not relevant to the daily life of the parish.
Kimball
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