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3 years ago  ::  Jul 28, 2010 - 1:47AM #21
soma77
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I feel if we follow Jesus we can walk in heaven on earth. We can follow the church and turn in those that molest children without judging. The church concentrates on ethics and has lost its mystical tradition. The church hid those that molested children in their midst so heaven will not be part of that experience.Walk in the spirit with the mind of Christ and one feels bliss and a taste of heaven.






St. Paul           1 Corinthians 2: 6-14


Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 


 


 

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 28, 2010 - 10:37AM #22
steve123
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Jul 28, 2010 -- 1:47AM, soma77 wrote:


I feel if we follow Jesus we can walk in heaven on earth. We can follow the church and turn in those that molest children without judging. The church concentrates on ethics and has lost its mystical tradition. The church hid those that molested children in their midst so heaven will not be part of that experience.Walk in the spirit with the mind of Christ and one feels bliss and a taste of heaven.





St. Paul           1 Corinthians 2: 6-14


Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 


 


 





The Church has lost its mystical tradition?  Really?  How long ago was that?  I didn't get the memo......


 


Also, you are judging when you say that those who hid child molesters won't be in heaven.  If they repent they certainly will be in heaven......

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 29, 2010 - 1:10AM #23
soma77
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I am talking about the mind of Christ. I don't think he would molest children. I think the people who molest might think I can ask forgiveness and all is well. Do you think they will have the mind of Christ psychologically. I feel they can forgive themselves and achive the mind of Jesus, but it will take sincerity.


The Catholic Church has a history rich in Christian Mysticism, but now they have rules and anyone talking about the interior life is called New Age.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 29, 2010 - 7:16AM #24
Mysty101
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Hi,


Please remember the local guidelines.  Criticism of the Catholic Church and debate belong in the discuss Catholicism forum.


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