Jul 4, 2009 -- 4:59PM, klm wrote:

I read something interesting of the politics board recently.   It was about a state using a tracking system attached to your car when driving certain roads.     There was a response with a picture of a person with a chip implanted in his hand.    I think that is really weird because in Revelations it says people will have the mark of the beast in   your head or your hand.        No one will be able to buy or sell with out this mark.   ( In the kjv it says in your hand)   In Mexico they have already implanted chips in the hands of some people.

What would you do if, in your area, all the stores  decided to use this way of doing business.

Would you have the chip implanted or do you think it's the beginning of the end.  

I'm not convinced that "chips" will be the method, but I am convinced that the time of the end is near.

The "chip" allows one access to the "road" apparently,-------In Rev., one is assenting to worship of a false GOD/"having a form of godliness". Rev.18:4, God is calling for HIS people to , "Come out of her my people".

Jul 7, 2009 -- 1:16AM, Roodog wrote:

The Bible connects the "mark" with buying or selling. It will be a monetary or commercial control. It may have something to do with taxation.

It is also explicitly associated with idolatry, for that reason alone it must be shunned.

Roodog, It primarily has to do with "WORSHIP", The false worship of anything is idolatry. Notice Rev.13:12,15, "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

That "first beast" had persecuted the true Believers in the Creator GOD for 1260 years before it "received a deadly wound". now in vs.15, "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

IMHO, that "image" is a likeness of the persecuting abilities which was the mark of that first beast's power-----Its false teachings which were contrary to GOD's teaching which it "thought to change". Dan.7:25; 2Thess.2:3-4      All who wouldn't obey its false teachings were branded as heretics and killed.  The reason those were killed was because they refused to worship the false doctrines/ "image" of that FALSE "Power". (A unfication of the "daughters and the Mother")

When the "mark" is implimented, no one can buy or sell unless they have this mark. This isolates anyone who will not partipate in this idolatry. You can't buy food or pay rent or pay taxes without it. You can't get paid or run a business without it. The Bible makes a clear cut choice, it won't be subtile.

As I had said it is tied to idolatry, something to some kind of cult of personalty, like the worship of Caesar in the Roman Empire from the first to fourth century.

Christians are commanded to shun anything that smacks of idolatry.

BTW, Sincerely, idolatry has everything to do with with false worship.

I agree with Sincerly. The mark of the beast will have to do with the way a person thinks about God (in the forehead, meaning in the mind, and/or the way a person acts (in the hand denoting actions). You see, having faith in God is not merely believing that God exists, but also accepting His standard of behavior and living your life accordingly.

Yes, Roodog. That's why God has a seal that He will cause to be put in His people's foreheads (minds). He won't need to put it on their hands, because those who really are His people act according to what's in their minds and hearts, whereas Satan doesn't care whether we think wrong or act wrong, so long as some part of us is in rebellion against God.