| 4 years ago :: May 27, 2009 - 4:58PM #1 | |
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Just what was God's reason for entering creation via the incarnation? |
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| 4 years ago :: May 30, 2009 - 9:06PM #2 | |
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For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. |
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| 4 years ago :: May 31, 2009 - 5:19PM #3 | |
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Agreed, certainly. But is there more to the question than that? In other words, I'm asking about the infralapsarian/supralapsarian discussion that has been around, in one form or another, since Origen. Much of that debate can be framed around the hypothetical question, "If sin had never entered creation, would the Son nontheless have become incarnate within it?" Framed another way, the question might be whether sin was the only reason for the incarnation. The question seemed to annoy Calvin, who brushed it off as a moot point, a hypothetical that was only a waste of time, and a way for those who would ask it to avoid the implications of the incarnation in its atoning function. I don't think Calvin's charge is well founded, but in any case, the question need not be as hypothetical as all that. Given the reality of sin having entered creation, the point of the original question may be reframed, "Was solving the problem of sin the *primary* reason for the incarnation?" Or does its primary purpose/meaning lie elsewhere? |
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| 4 years ago :: May 31, 2009 - 10:30PM #4 | |
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Dewey, |
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| 4 years ago :: Jun 05, 2009 - 12:57AM #5 | |
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I don't think you can separate the purpose of solving the sin problem from the purpose of showing God's mercy and glory. God created Adam and Eve sinless. He came to visit with them in the cool of the day. He wasn't incarnated then, and the first two humans were able to see Him as He really is. Only when sin entered the world through their disobedience did God need to veil Himself from them, because if He had not, they would have died instantly. God could have dealt with the sin problem by destroying Adam and Eve immediately, along with the fallen Lucifer and all the angels who followed him, but then all the other created beings would have obeyed Him out of fear instead of out of love, and they would have thought that maybe Lucifer was right about God being a selfish tyrant. But God didn't want to destroy His humans. He wanted to save them, and to restore them to the perfect state in which He had created them, so He did the only thing He couyld do under the circumstances: He came as one of us, to teach us about His love and grace, and to pay the penalty for our sins so we wouldn't have to. |
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