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6 years ago  ::  Feb 19, 2009 - 11:17AM #1
greenponder
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The term “faith” is used in many ways. I would like to know what you think. What is the definition of “faith”? What is “faith”? What are the properties of “faith”? What are the components of “faith”?
(I’m posting these questions to a few different discussion groups to get input from a variety of perspectives.)
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 12:11PM #2
CalKnox
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There is an intellectual and historical faith which does not save.


Saving faith is understanding we are guilty, miserable sinners, unable to save ourselves and trusting in the completed atoning work of Jesus Christ alone for our salvation.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2010 - 4:55PM #3
Truthprecepts
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This is a good question: "What is faith?"


Some of the content below comes from the book Vital Truth and Precepts. Let me share this with you.


Since dependence is a trait common to humans, it is inevitable that a person must have faith in something or someone. True faith comes with the knowledge that God exists. This is not a mere head knowledge gained from human persuasion or reasoning. Sadly, much of the faith that is held to in our world today is the false kind. Even within the ranks of people who claim to know God, the practices of falsified faith and pseudogodliness are sometimes deliberately cultivated and nurtured.


The Bible defines faith as “the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1). This is true faith. It is a deliberate endowment—an effectual gift from God (Ephesians 2:8). For every true Christian, true faith is based on the sum-total of what Christ accomplished through His death and resurrection. The forgiveness for sins and justification thus derived are imputed to the Christian.  This means that a person cannot independently choose to have faith. It is neither a product nor a discipline of the human will.


 True faith—the gracious endowment from God—is a spiritual reality that visibly governs the beneficiary’s life, predisposition, and conduct.

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4 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 9:51PM #4
Lionstrong
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Mar 15, 2010 -- 4:55PM, Truthprecepts wrote:


The Bible defines faith as “the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1). This is true faith.



If one were to say that a dog is man's best friend, he would not be giving a definition of a dog.  He's telling us something about a dog to be sure, but he is not defining what it is.  The same is true in what God's word says in Heb. 11:1.  God is telling us a truth about faith, it is assurance and evidence, but here He is not giving us a definition. The word faith is a common word in the Greek as well as in English. The Bible does not give it a special definition and it is to be understood as having its ordinary definition.


Faith as a verb, that is, to have faith or to believe is to mentally or intellectually assent to an understood proposition.  The faith that saves is to mentally or intellectually assent to certain understood propostions about Jesus of Nasareth.  This definition is offensive to many and they want to define faith in such a was as to include some external obedience to the law of God.  This obviously contradicts the teaching of the Gospel.  If the definition of faith included some kind of external obedience to God's law (or external observance, i.e., baptism, circumcision) Paul would not have said, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law." (Rom. 3:28 NASB)

John 20:31, "...but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name." (NASB)


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10 months ago  ::  Feb 03, 2014 - 5:20AM #5
Lionstrong
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Jul 22, 2009 -- 12:11PM, CalKnox wrote:

There is an intellectual and historical faith which does not save.


Saving faith is understanding we are guilty, miserable sinners, unable to save ourselves and trusting in the completed atoning work of Jesus Christ alone for our salvation.


CalKnox, you're confusing the object of faith with the definition of faith. The object of biblical saving faith is that "we are guity, miserable sinners, unable to save ourselves and trusting in the completed atoning work of Jesus Christ alone for our salvation." Faith is simply another word for believe (verb) or belief (noun) When the Bible talks about THE faith, it's talking about what we believe, i.e., what we have faith in. our beliefs.


We are not saved by obedience to God's holy laws or by religeous rites. We are saved by believing (having faith in) God's "intellectual and historical" truths that "we are guilty, miserable sinners, unable to save ourselves and trusting in the completed atoning work [historical] of Jesus Christ alone for our salvation."


"For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law." (Rom 3:28, NASB)


"But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOUIN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;" (Rom 10: 8, 9 NASB)


Yes, "There is an [my emphasis] intellectual and historical faith which does not save." And there is a biblical intellectual and histircal faith that does.  Jesus died and was raised in real space/time history, and if we do not believe this, we cannot be saved. Salvation is not by our doing but by Christ's doing and dieing.

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