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Flag Threein1 May 25, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
“Yoga can lead to possession by the Devil says the Catholic UK exorcist Father Jeremy Davies” in the press report today. (May 25th)  I am not a Catholic but I certainly agree with Fr. Davies because I have personal experience of this. 

43 years ago I sought spiritual healing from the Great White Brotherhood for my dying father.  The doctors had given up on him and his miraculous healing led to think this brotherhood was of God.  Three years later as an Outer Brother I was invited to the groups UK headquarters for a pre-initiation test for Inner Brotherhood.

During this test the founder was transfigured by a satanic spirit snake that was reaching out to touch my forehead.  Although frozen with fear I mentally called out to God (in whom I then disbelieved) to come and save me.  Miraculously He did and I never went back to the group. But first I had to last out the week’s Retreat I was on.

Amazingly confirmation of the transfiguration came with the first lesson next morning.  We were taught (I closed my mind to the lesson) how by deep meditation we could bring alive the spirit snake that lies dormant at the base of all our spines. When this happens, we were told, it crawls up our spine to our head where it develops wings to carry our soul to Heaven!!!

This spirit snake we were told was called the Kundalini of Yoga and the physical exercises of Yoga were part of the spiritual purpose to bring the snake alive. At that time I had no idea of what Yoga was about and had never heard of the Kundalini. Thus I can give living testimony of what the exorcist warns about.  The spirit snake doesn’t go to Heaven it lies in wait within the medium until a victim is lulled into a sense of false security when it is able to transfigure the medium and strike out to enslave a soul for eternity with the Devil.

The link to my 6 short videos can be accessed via my profile.  No 4 confirms in greater detail what I say above.  The written version link is in my signature below.

Keith
Flag malanga May 29, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
And sub-prime loans can lead to repossession. ;0)
(sorry, I couldn't resist...)
Flag nancyflorencecarlson May 31, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
think you have to have a weak spirit in the first place to get possessed
Flag Shaner June 1, 2008 9:50 AM EDT

malanga wrote:

And sub-prime loans can lead to repossession. ;0)
(sorry, I couldn't resist...)



That's too funny, malanga, LOL!

Peace,
Sandy

Flag Bob_Bennett April 7, 2009 7:48 PM EDT

 


Even if there were a devil, this would still be pretty funny.     I would have expected to find this kind of ignorance on a fundy or evangelical board.

Flag Salcia July 4, 2009 8:17 PM EDT

Malanga, I think I love you.


I think yoga is like anything else: the spirit in which you use it matters as much as the tools you use. Yoga originally was part of Hindu religious practice. But the way I've seen it practiced at the local recreation centre probably doesn't put you in too much danger of anything except sore muscles.


That said, I'm going to have to read your story, threein1. Sounds interesting. The spirit snake thing is weird. How is one transfigured by a spirit snake? I dunno . . . but I'm intrigued.

Flag Theresamarie July 5, 2009 12:44 AM EDT

I feel that God is leading you out!


Take Care!

Flag steve123 August 13, 2009 11:57 AM EDT

A baptist preacher I listen to on the radio here locally has a good saying - "The devil lives in the extremes."  I think that is true in any endeavor, be it religious or secular in nature.  A yoga practice that is immersed in eastern religious practice can be harmful to a practicing Catholic.  I used to take martial arts, and one thing I liked about it was that there was no overtly religious concepts.  It was strictly just the movements.

Flag belleo January 7, 2010 8:31 AM EST

A long time ago like maybe thirty years I was told that yoga opens us to spirits . Some types are worst then others . The Hindus they call upon their gods and there are many . I call them spirits .


My brother is a master in Karate . He told me that many in his group levitated . I don't think that was from God . He had deep problems after participating in that group but he never levitated .


TM is another eastern way of doing ourselves in . That too is based on gods . I know many who participated in Transcendental Meditation and it didn't do them any good . I include myself with them .So one gets a Mantra that we are not suppose to share with anyone . Your very own mantra , right . Well brother and sisters shared and we all had the same mantra for big money . TA didn't help any of us .


I also read reports years ago and many who practiced TA landed in psychiatric hospitals . In Montreal Canada  they didn't know how to treat those people . I would think they needed spiritual help. The mantra we were given was the name of their god .


Today I have a mantra and it is Maranatha and it means ," Come Lord Jesus . "

Flag steve123 January 8, 2010 12:25 PM EST

Interesting.  Yea, it depends on the Martial Arts school/teacher as to how much religious practice is emphasized, but the ones I've been associated with have had absolutely no religious overtones.

Flag soma77 January 13, 2010 10:26 PM EST

Catholics who are afraid of other religions are not very strong or deep in the Catholic faith. There is no need to be afraid. One needs to strength one's relationship with God and then there is nothing to fear.

Flag babeti August 5, 2011 11:52 AM EDT

Why do exorcists and their clients think that demonic possession is   on the increase? Exorcists point to an alleged increase in interest in   the occult, together with risky behavior such as practicing yoga,  reading horoscopes, and an increase in new age forms of spiritualism.


newagemess.blogspot.com/2011/08/so-you-w...


Interesting to read how the Yoga got to us  in the first place. Its always worth knowing the history well in details :-)


newagemess.blogspot.com/2011/08/yoga-not...


 

Flag soma77 August 5, 2011 7:29 PM EDT

God is the strongest force so walk with the Lord and nothing can touch you.


Christian America has a spiritual deficit and the process of becoming a good Christian is the process of falling in love. God seems to reveal his love in a heart to heart conversation that enlightens the mind and enflames the heart with intensity. It is inside where the flames of love flare up, it also seems that religion diminishes and divides the love of God causing the heart to flicker. People talk about the devil, the cult and other things to put fear in people, not love. I wish religion would lead people into the inner altar of God where love can flare up and not become an attachment that limits and divides love. I feel we American Christians and Catholics need to try not to let religion cut our moorings so we drift to the surface and become the superficial Christians afraid of our shadows. Yoga is exercises that can relax the body and mind and increase our love of Christ. Fear is what keeps one from love and Our Lord.

Flag soma77 November 24, 2013 12:50 PM EST

If God is the strongest force why are we Christian so paranoid over physical, mental and spiritual practices that can be beneficial? If we walk with Our Lord, we would talk and enjoy the experience and nothing would threaten us.

Flag Mysty101 January 8, 2014 5:25 AM EST

Hi,


There is a very fine line between natural beneficial practices and practices which derive their benefits from a source other than God.  


The devil is a master at disguising evil as good.  This is probably the reason many are so skeptical of many new age practices.  Some metalic bracelets seem to have a natural beneficial effect in pain management.  This is ok, but what about crystals & other items which claim to give "positive energy"?  


We do not channel positive energy from any other source than God.


SuZ


Flag soma77 January 9, 2014 10:07 PM EST

I am a Christian and my God created everything, but people instead of talking about the glories of our Father rather talk about the power of the Devil. They instead of attracting people to God they condemn others and  what they do. It is no wonder that people love Jesus but don't like Christians or Christianity

Flag Mysty101 January 12, 2014 2:21 PM EST

Hi again,


Do you care to respond to my question from a Catholic perspective?  If you do not wish to discuss according to Catholic teaching, this is not the correct forum for your conversation.


SuZ


Flag soma77 January 12, 2014 8:18 PM EST

The proposition that God is one is one of the central tenets in the Catholic concept of the Trinity. It the Catechism of the Catholic Church is says:


IV. THE IMPLICATIONS OF FAITH IN ONE GOD


222 Believing in God, the only One, and loving him with all our being has enormous consequences for our whole life.


223 It means coming to know God's greatness and majesty: "Behold, God is great, and we know him not."46 Therefore, we must "serve God first".47


..........................................................


224 It means living in thanksgiving: if God is the only One, everything we are and have comes from him: "What have you that you did not receive?"48 "What shall I render to the LORD for all his bounty to me?"49


225 It means knowing the unity and true dignity of all men: everyone is made in the image and likeness of God.50


226 It means making good use of created things: faith in God, the only One, leads us to use everything that is not God only insofar as it brings us closer to him, and to detach ourselves from it insofar as it turns us away from him:


My Lord and my God, take from me everything that distances me from you.
My Lord and my God, give me everything that brings me closer to you.
My Lord and my God, detach me from myself to give my all to you.51

227 It means trusting God in every circumstance, even in adversity. A prayer of St. Teresa of Jesus wonderfully expresses this trust:



Let nothing trouble you / Let nothing frighten you
Everything passes / God never changes
Patience / Obtains all
Whoever has God / Wants for nothing
God alone is enough.5
I know you are sincere, but please serve God by praising God and not the devil. The devil has no power if God is the strongest force. We are not to judge and condemn that is what Satan does so why should we do his work for him. Maybe for you yoga is not your thing, but many have benefitted by relaxing and even becomming a better Catholic, remember Catholic means universal.

Flag Mysty101 January 27, 2014 8:21 PM EST

The devil celebrates whenever anyone says he has no power.  

Flag soma77 January 27, 2014 9:12 PM EST

I agree that is why we should talk about God and not the Devil. We talk about the devil in this and that gives the devil power. We don't have to worry about other things which we know nothing about faith in God takes care of things. Peace be with you.

Flag Dave434 February 10, 2014 9:58 PM EST
Pope Francis put it best: "who am I to judge?" And Jesus said it perfectly: "Judge not, lest you be judged." How we can we condemn the spiritual practice of another? God, our Divine Wisdom, speaks in many different ways, in ways that match who the individual is. We are not another, how can we judge others? In case  you wonder, I am 80 years a Catholic. I have been involved in parish, diocesan, and national efforts dealing with the sole purpose of Jesus's work, to Evangelize, to bring God's love into the soul of another.. I have learned that God speaks to all, in the language that they can understand. Sometimes we do not understand their view, but God does. Whether it be Catholic, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or even Pagan, God speaks to the soul of the individual.  When you learn to comfort a soul in despair, a drunk, a lost soul searching for a meaning in life, God is there. And if you truly are a messenger from God, listen to their need, not your inclinations.

I have meditated for over 50 years, daily, using many different forms, including yoga, the psalms, the Breviary for 30 years. I have read the bible from the beginning to the end over one year. I have read well over a thousand theological and spiritual books. And I have listened to my God cry out from others, and rejoiced in their joy on discovering deeper meanings in life.

So, "Who am I to judge?"
Flag Mysty101 February 16, 2014 1:08 PM EST

Hi,


No, we should not judge, but as Catholics, we must be careful of any spiritual practices that are not Catholic.  If we are meditating or looking for a connection, we need to be sure who we are calling.


I heard the Papal exorcist speak a while back.  He said you are really fooling yourself, if you do not acknowledge what havoc the devil can raise.


The devil is not a terrifying looking being with horns and a tail.  He can appear any way which will lead you astray.


SuZ

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