I'm curious as how they can claim to be "valdily" ordainedsince the "bishopess" from California claims to be a bishop, but who ordained her?

[QUOTE=malanga;633997]Anyone catch this news article:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/16 … etail.html

Opinions?[/QUOTE]

Well you can get mad, or you can realize just how silly these people are being, be sad for them and pray for them.

The Curt Jester had a rather funny parody of a Newsweek article of a "Catholic woman priest."
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I have quite an announcement to make. I am now a reporter for Newsweek magazine! I always felt a call to be a reporter for Newsweek magazine so this is something very important for me. I can't tell you how thrilled I am at this news and the impact this has on my life and hopefully the lives of others.

The hierarchy of Newsweek magazine though doesn't recognize my call to be a reporter for them. So I had to have reporter credentials given me by an Ecumenical magazine group that also see themselves nevertheless as Newsweek employees and don't recognize the authority of Newsweek's editors to make hiring decisions.

So for my first article as a Newsweek employee I am going to interview myself.

Have you heard from the Newsweek hierarchy?
The reporting community I belong to hasn't felt anything from the editors, but local stringers have informed others not to read my reporting since I wasn't a "validly credentialed" reporters for Newsweek.

How has your family handled your decision? Are they still Newsweek readers?
They are. They are actually incredibly supportive. My immediate family came for my giving a Newsweek credentials. My grandmother bought me an old typewriter.

How many people read your Newsweek articles?
We have 80 registered members. And we have a number of people who come who are subscribe to Newsweek but who come to read with us as a place to refresh their souls—a lot of them are ex-Newsweek readers who are uncomfortable with Newsweek's discriminatory hiring practices.

Do you know the other Ecumenically credentialed Newsweek reporters?
In the Ecumenical Newsweek Communion there are six other reporters. I know all of them. In the Ecumenical Reporters Communion we no longer claim that we’re underneath the authority of the editors. [There’s also a group called the Roman Newsweek Reporters, which also credentials some reporters.] During the last several years there have been organized giving of Newsweek reporter credentials primarily on river boats.

Have you received any hate mail?
I personally have not received hate mail, although there are plenty of blogs that I have found online that like to slander my name when they get hold of information about my credentials. It’s unfortunate and sad. The people I serve are excited to see a place where men and women can read my articles side by side. Just because I wasn't actually hired by Newsweek and I receive no salary from them or actually turn my stories over to them to be published doesn't prevent me from being a validly credentialed Newsweek reporters. Defenders of Newsweek's reporter tradition says that since founders of Newsweek (Ward Cheney, John Hay Whitney, and Paul Mellon) didn't allow people to call themselves Newsweek reporters without actually being hired by them that this can't be changed. There has been recent archaeological evidence in Newsweek headquarters of a statue of a reporter who does not seem to have ever been on their pay role. I think this is evidence of self-named Newsweek reporters in the early history of the magazine. If only people would get with the modern time and to understand how discriminatory Newsweek's present hiring practices are by not hiring everybody that would apply.

Is there anything else you wish people knew?
It’s important to me that people see that I did what the others do to prepare to be a reporter. I took that traditional path. I got a certificate from an online journalism school for a reasonable fee. I forced myself to cover local news of minor happenings to prepare myself. I just wish more reporters who find themselves alienated from the magazine could find a magazine home. I am taking this step forward so that others in the future will have the opportunity to be a Newsweek reporter without having to face their discriminatory hiring practice of only hiring those with a journalism degree and having the ability to write and to act as a reporter.
http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjest … news-1.php
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[QUOTE=cove52;640797]There are women priests who go through "seminary".  In my 1st post on this thread I mentioned a woman Episcopal priest who went to a Catholic university for her religious studies.  My point in bringing up the Episcopal convert priest was that he did not possess the same qualifications as a cradle Catholic like these women, imo.  He basically was given the role as Catholic priest with not much instruction.  You should have been there for his 1st Mass at my former parish.  It was embarrassing to say the least.  I felt like I wanted to get up there and perform the rituals for him.:(  Don't get me wrong.  He was a very sweet man and we were glad to welcome him.  He did get through the Mass but not without the help of some of the parishoners.  Actually, I blame our other priest.  He really should have been there for the guys 1st Mass.

Since we aren't going to agree on the word  "qualifications", I'll just say they probably possess the same "qualities" as any Catholic male who is interested in becoming a good priest except one. I personally don't doubt their "qualifications" for the job.

I agree with what you said.  I have stated on other threads that I believe women are the backbone of this religious institution.  I believe the work they do and roles they play in the Church are actually more important than the duties of a priest.  But, there is this strange backlash from the good-old-boys-club (hierarchy) that is something to be aware of and not take lightly (check out the link I posted to Jane's thread and the article she presents.  Sr. Joan is a theologian in her own right and a religious that I hightly respect) .  I am developing a better understanding that this desire to be a priest is not necessarily about feminism but rather a true "calling" for some women.  Now, are there women out there who have to prove a point and will go to any length to prove it???  These women "priests" may very well be of that ilk.  But, should I let them over shadow those women who may truly be "called" to the priesthood? I think there are many Catholic women out there who possess the "qualities" to be good priests but who are purposely "missing the boat" because they don't want to "rock the boat".    I think it is time we throw these women a net.


These boards are one big "soap box".;)[/QUOTE]

I'd say that stinks that the Church did not fully train that former Episcopal priest before he preformed his 1st Mass. I do agree there are some of those women priest that did have "seminary" background with theological and/or ministerial degrees but even with those and watching Mass since possibly birth allows them to validate themselves as priests. I work in ORs, have watch over 300 spine surgeries, have taken medical/biology courses that use the same book as medical school courses, and have discusses medical issues & research with surgeon but that doesn't make me qualified to perform surgery. Why? Because I need to have a medical degree, license, residency, and credentialing through the hospitals to do that. Same deal, these women are not priests since they are not officially sanctioned by the Church (i.e. they haven't gone through a formal RC seminary, approved by the College of Cardinals, etc.). Not saying that you ARE saying they are valid priests Cove but I just don't see how they can even believe what they are doing is valid. I too do hope for a day women can be priests but that's not the case just yet. I agree, there are some ladies I know for sure would make great priests.

Prajna- they validate the bishops thusly from what I understand: the original women bishops were ordained by MALE RC BISHOPS in good standing (but names withheld so they do not get excommunicated). So the validity of their ordination is valid through that, supposedly. The women bishops from henceforth can ordained new women priests and bishops. I believe the CA bishop was ordained by one of  the female bishops.

I do wonder where these churches are that they lead. Anyone know?

OK, soap boxing done for the day! :)

[QUOTE=Grumpyturtle;662445]How long does it take to become a nun? or a priest? In my church for a person to become and ordained minister it takes about 6 years of study.[/QUOTE]

"If the man joins a seminary without college, education to become a priest takes eight years. With a college degree, time in the seminary is usually four years. "

I found this info here: http://www.wisegeek.com/how-does-someon … priest.htm

The Catholic Church will never allow female priests. Why can't some people just accept that & move on with their lives?