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10 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2008 - 12:16AM #41
gilg
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[QUOTE=Mareczku;416201]Seraphim made some very interesting comments.  What does anyone else think about them?

Mareczku[/QUOTE]

I think he gave good advice, it is an approach that has worked, and for some, it may be the only approach that works. If nothing else works for one, then one should follow that advice.
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10 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2008 - 8:04PM #42
cswalters
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Okay I have have looked up this question before, because I was concerned with Masturbation was a sin or not. Well what I found out was yes it is, but wet dreams are not because they are a biological process that can't be controlled, even if you have a rosary, it kind of like urinating it just can't be helped, and their is nothing in the Bible or Catholicism of the Catholic Church, about wet dreams. As for masturbation yes it is a sin, but just taking "cold" showers isn't going to help much or even sleeping with a rosary, especially if your a teenage boy. The only thing to do is pray that God helps you from stopping it, and just to have the will power to abstain from it. Hope this helps.
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10 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2008 - 9:13PM #43
Mareczku
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Wet dreams are not considered sinful by the Church.  When I was I teen I thought that I was urinating because nobody ever explained it to me and I was too embarrassed to ask the doctor about it.  I didn't know what mas-- was because I never heard of it much less do it.  I think mas--- is just a venial sin, especially for teen guys, it is just normal.  I don't think people should tell kids its a mortal sin because it will just drive them away from the Church.  I don't think teens should be made to feel guilty and ashamed of their sexuality.  I don't know why they didn't tell those priests molesting young people that they should mas-- and leave the kids alone.  (That plus keep them away from young people.)  Better they committed venial sins than mortal sins.  Does this make sense? 

Peace - Mareczku
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10 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2008 - 9:13PM #44
Mareczku
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Wet dreams are not considered sinful by the Church.  When I was I teen I thought that I was urinating because nobody ever explained it to me and I was too embarrassed to ask the doctor about it.  I didn't know what mas-- was because I never heard of it much less do it.  I think mas--- is just a venial sin, especially for teen guys, it is just normal.  I don't think people should tell kids its a mortal sin because it will just drive them away from the Church.  I don't think teens should be made to feel guilty and ashamed of their sexuality.  I don't know why they didn't tell those priests molesting young people that they should mas-- and leave the kids alone.  (That plus keep them away from young people.)  Better they committed venial sins than mortal sins.  Does this make sense? 

Peace - Mareczku
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10 years ago  ::  May 11, 2008 - 1:21AM #45
Mareczku
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Hi Sisk.  I don't know if I agree that masturbation is gravely disordered.  Some in the Church think that it is a sign of a mental disorder but the medical profession says this is baloney.  A pamphlet for parents in my church said that masturbation and wet dreams are completely normal for teens and nothing to be that concerned about.  It is important that you don't feel too guilty about it because this could be harmful.  It is a venial sin not a mortal sin.  Yes, you are commiting a sin but not a major sin.  If you went out and forced yourself on a girl this would be a mortal sin.  If you are not sexually active and are waiting for marriage or possibly a religious vocation you are to be commended.  Probably what you do need to do is when you do it do not think about another person.  I don't know what you think about.  Since I was a virgin when I was a teen and never actually did self-gratification until I was 18 and out of high school, I never really thought about anything when I was doing it.  I did it because it felt good and it kept me from having accidents.  I guess you should try not to think about girls with lust.  I never actually did this so I don't know exactly what you are going through in this regard.  I never did take cold showers though.  I can't even stand the thought.  Yeah, I did it in the shower a lot but didn't think it was any big deal as I was clean afterwards.  I was actually too shy to confess this.  I went to Mass like 5 times a week but couldn't talk about sex with the priest.  I actually went to confession every couple of months until I was 20 and the priest got a little to friendly so I stopped going to him for confession.  Actually he brought up the topic with me once and I'm glad now that I didn't discuss it with him because it probably would have been a turn-on for him and with that guy I was better off just keeping it to myself.  The best thing to keep you on track is to go to Mass and communion.  As long as you go to Mass every week you are doing great.  I have a hard time getting my son to go to Mass every week now that he is a freshman in college.  His friends don't go and it is kind of depressing to me.  You sound like a great guy and you need to not get discouraged and stay faithful.  You are only human so do the best you can.  You need to remember that your sexuality is a gift from God and not feel guilty about who you are. 

Peace - Mark
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10 years ago  ::  May 11, 2008 - 9:25PM #46
Mareczku
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I don't consider masturbation and wet dreams to be disorders and don't think most Catholics think they are either.  Actually when I was a teen and had wet dreams I thought that I had a disorder.  I guess that is why it upsets me somewhat to hear these things referred to as disorder.   I thought something was wrong with me because nobody ever explained it to me.  I was too embarrassed to ask a doctor what was the matter with me.  I never considered being a priest because I thought that something was wrong with me and that I was impure and because of this I was not fit to be a priest.  When I was 16 I had no idea how a woman got pregnant.  I knew nothing about female anatomy and wasn't really interested.  I thought pornography was garbage and it grossed me out and I refused to look at it.  I actually thought babies came out of your belly button and never even thought about how they got in there.  We didn't have sex ed until I was in 12th grade because I went to Catholic school. Puberty was never discussed.  We did discuss abortion in 11th and 12th grades and I always thought it was murder.  When I was in 12th grade they did mention various types of birth control but since I was a virgin it didn't really mean anything to me.  I actually had all A's in 12th grade Health and got a 96 in my final so I guess I learned something.  Except for the wet dreams, I was a chaste teenager.  I think it is harder for kids today because they have to grow up faster and have everything thrown at them.  I can't believe some of the commercials they have on TV.  Sometimes I wonder what I would have thought of them when I was a kid.   You sound like a great guy Sisk and it sounds like you are on the right track.  Keep up the good work. 

Peace - Mareczku
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10 years ago  ::  May 11, 2008 - 9:25PM #47
Mareczku
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I don't consider masturbation and wet dreams to be disorders and don't think most Catholics think they are either.  Actually when I was a teen and had wet dreams I thought that I had a disorder.  I guess that is why it upsets me somewhat to hear these things referred to as disorder.   I thought something was wrong with me because nobody ever explained it to me.  I was too embarrassed to ask a doctor what was the matter with me.  I never considered being a priest because I thought that something was wrong with me and that I was impure and because of this I was not fit to be a priest.  When I was 16 I had no idea how a woman got pregnant.  I knew nothing about female anatomy and wasn't really interested.  I thought pornography was garbage and it grossed me out and I refused to look at it.  I actually thought babies came out of your belly button and never even thought about how they got in there.  We didn't have sex ed until I was in 12th grade because I went to Catholic school. Puberty was never discussed.  We did discuss abortion in 11th and 12th grades and I always thought it was murder.  When I was in 12th grade they did mention various types of birth control but since I was a virgin it didn't really mean anything to me.  I actually had all A's in 12th grade Health and got a 96 in my final so I guess I learned something.  Except for the wet dreams, I was a chaste teenager.  I think it is harder for kids today because they have to grow up faster and have everything thrown at them.  I can't believe some of the commercials they have on TV.  Sometimes I wonder what I would have thought of them when I was a kid.   You sound like a great guy Sisk and it sounds like you are on the right track.  Keep up the good work. 

Peace - Mareczku
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10 years ago  ::  Jun 07, 2008 - 6:57PM #48
Mareczku
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I think I was lucky Sisk22 because when I was a teen I don't think I ever really experienced lust.  I don't know if I actually feel it now depending on what your definition is.

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