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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 9:36PM #71
five_point_dad
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Jan 25, 2008 -- 11:59PM, SonnyC wrote:

puritan_believer wrote:

I believe the Bible, so I believe all 5 points. You  cannot believe one without believing all 5 and be consistent.


Calvinist soteriology is incoherent. It is logically ludicrous. It is horrific. It is so bad, in my view, that I cannot even bring myself to tell you what I think of it, because I realize your belief in it isn't really your fault, and I don't want to offend or lay the trip for it's existence on your door.

I love God. I've been born-again for 30 years. Yet if I discovered that your doctrine of salvation were true tomorrow, I would REJECT Jesus Christ and Christianity, and probably become a Hindu or something. You don't know me, but for me to say that means I REALLY hate Calvinist doctrine.

LOL. Now that we have that past us, how you guys doin?


   Your post reminds me of myself forty some years ago.  You couldn't find someone more hateful of Calvinism.  When I first became aware of what it taught, I couldn't find the words to condemn it.  It was illogical and sickening. 


    However, I happened to wander into a church one day where I did not usually attend and I heard expository messages on the Gospel of John.  I started afresh looking into this unsavory teaching, and now some forty-two years later, I not only embrace all five points of Calvinism, I've been called of God to preach and I have been doing that for a number of years.  I also teach it in seminary. 


   Never underestimate the power of what God's Word can do to someone like you. 

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 12:51AM #72
VIOLA51
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Hello fellow Christians,


These 5 points, especially as explained by R.C. Sproul, take a while to fully understand and embrace. But they are crucial to our faith and we should take the time and effort to learn them.  Speaking for myself, I first found them to be harsh, and difficult to accept, but when the Holy Spirit made them clear to me, I was blessed beyond words.  

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