| 6 years ago :: Nov 03, 2007 - 1:18AM #11 | |
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JP ... you've probably already seen this site ... http://www.valyermo.com/ld-art.html (Sorry I don't know how to do the linky thing on this new forum)
It helped me a great deal when I first started the practice myself. Hope this helps. Blessings Bro. John |
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 03, 2007 - 1:42AM #12 | |
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[QUOTE=brjohnbc;41906]JP ... you've probably already seen this site ... http://www.valyermo.com/ld-art.html (Sorry I don't know how to do the linky thing on this new forum)
It helped me a great deal when I first started the practice myself. Hope this helps. Blessings Bro. John[/QUOTE] [COLOR="Navy"]Yikes! Bro. John and JP - Luke Dysinger is the man! He's the Benedictine I mentioned in an earlier post. I heard him speak about lectio at a retreat I attended some years ago. [/COLOR]
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 03, 2007 - 10:02AM #13 | |
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[QUOTE=splendid;41870]How do you pronounce that?:)[/QUOTE]
Slendid: lol! Well, if I'd of spelled it right in the first place, it'd be easier. Domine, ut videam. Doe-me-nay, oot vid-ay-ahm. :) |
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 03, 2007 - 2:45PM #14 | |
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[QUOTE=brjohnbc;41906]JP ... you've probably already seen this site ... http://www.valyermo.com/ld-art.html (Sorry I don't know how to do the linky thing on this new forum)
[/QUOTE] Another site you might find helpful is Thomas Keeting's lessons on Lectio Divina. According to the Ecclesiastical Latin Pronunciation Guide, the correct pronunciation is leCH-t-o. C coming before e, ae, oe, i, y is pronounced like ch in Church e.g. caelum = che-loom |
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 03, 2007 - 7:01PM #15 | |
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As regards the pronunciation :eek:!
My thanks to everyone for their input. You've pointed me to several more resources I hadn't come across so far so that's great. Plus you've really helped me focus on a couple of points I might have passed over. And I will keep you up to date as it comes together. |
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 04, 2007 - 12:16AM #16 | |
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Lectio is Latin for "I read", and I've never heard it pronounced any other way than LECK-TEE-OH, with the emphasis on the first syllable. If it was to be pronounced LEK-SEE-OH, it would be spelled LEXIO. (I learned Latin long before I began the daily practice of Lectio Divina).
I use the reading for the day from 'Forward day by Day' . What do I get out of it? Well, apart from the fact that it helps me centre myself for the coming day (I do Lectio Divina first thing in the morning), I find that it gives me a deeper appreciation of the text, helps me to read between the lines and better (though not always fully) understand the meaning and intent of the text. In the Conteplatio, I feel very close to God. On the rare days when I don't do Lectio Divina in the morning, I am never really focused!
"God is no captious sophister, eager to trip us up whenever we say amiss, but a courteous tutor, ready to amend what, in our weakness or our ignorance, we say ill, and to make the most of what we say aright." from 'A Learned Discourse on Justification', a sermon by Richard Hooker (1554-1600).
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 04, 2007 - 12:56AM #17 | |
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Mostyn...you're right. The C comes before the T so it should have a K sound. I need new glasses.
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 04, 2007 - 1:22AM #18 | |
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 04, 2007 - 1:05AM #19 | |
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It saddens me that Latin, from which we derive much of our ecclesiastical and legal language is no longer taught in schools, and we end up not knowing how to pronounce the Latin phrases still in use in our liturgy. For instance, Domine is pronounced DOM-IN-AY, again with the emphasis on the first syllable. And there was no hard V in Latin - V is sounded as W, so pax vobiscum should be pronounced PAX WOE-BIS-CUM (emphasis on the first syllable, as usual).
I'm grateful that, like Shakespeare, "I have some Latin and less Greek."
"God is no captious sophister, eager to trip us up whenever we say amiss, but a courteous tutor, ready to amend what, in our weakness or our ignorance, we say ill, and to make the most of what we say aright." from 'A Learned Discourse on Justification', a sermon by Richard Hooker (1554-1600).
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| 6 years ago :: Nov 04, 2007 - 10:12AM #20 | |
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[QUOTE=Mostyn32;43641]It saddens me that Latin, from which we derive much of our ecclesiastical and legal language is no longer taught in schools, and we end up not knowing how to pronounce the Latin phrases still in use in our liturgy. For instance, Domine is pronounced DOM-IN-AY, again with the emphasis on the first syllable. And there was no hard V in Latin - V is sounded as W, so pax vobiscum should be pronounced PAX WOE-BIS-CUM (emphasis on the first syllable, as usual).
I'm grateful that, like Shakespeare, "I have some Latin and less Greek."[/QUOTE] Mostyn: How Old Dutch just hates to be a pious, pedantic, Pecksniff ----but: That's true in Classical Latin (which nobody spoke anyway, except in the Senate on state occasions, and nobody really understood what was being said. People spoke vernacular Latin of two varieties: educated and plebian. Modern Romance Languages are largely based on plebian Lation). In Ecclesiastical Latin, however, there is a "V" which is pronounced as "vee". E.L. also has the "J", a medieval development within the church (along with heretic-burnings and inquisitions). Yes, I suffered through two years of ecclesiastical Latin in RC schools (until I was expelled for recalcitrancy !) :D
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The Socratic Standard: Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+. Dutch |
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