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3 years ago  ::  Jan 18, 2012 - 11:19AM #21
theMadJW
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If you look at history, there were many that claimed to be the messiah (thus all the prophetic signs God gave to discern the REAL one).


NONE of the others are remembered.


Jesus has influenced the WORLD, even though there are lands dominated by other religions.


The stark honesty of the Bible (unequalled in human histories, and other religious writings) writers indicates they were NOT making things up. The sheer CONVICTION shows there was far more than gullibility to their faith.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 19, 2012 - 1:49AM #22
Namchuck
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Jan 18, 2012 -- 11:19AM, theMadJW wrote:


If you look at history, there were many that claimed to be the messiah (thus all the prophetic signs God gave to discern the REAL one).


NONE of the others are remembered.


What a load of codswallop!


There have been many well-known and well-remembered messiah-claimants over the centuries. Simply because you are - not surprisingly - unfamiliar with them in your somewhat parochial grasp of history doesn't mean that others are as historically benighted as you. 


Simon of Perea; Menachem ben Judah; Simin bar Kokhba; Moses of Crete; and Sabbatai Zevi are just a few from off the top of my head.


Jesus has influenced the WORLD, even though there are lands dominated by other religions.


Yes, but the influence of Jesus is readily and easily explained in terms of the adoption of Christianity by the 'conversion' of Constantine which lead to Christianity becoming the religion of an empire.


And would one suggest that the increasing presence of the religion of Mohammed in Christian countries as an indication of the truth of Islam? 


The stark honesty of the Bible (unequalled in human histories, and other religious writings) writers indicates they were NOT making things up. The sheer CONVICTION shows there was far more than gullibility to their faith.


What dreadful nonsense! 


The Bible is starkly "honest"!? About what?


And by what authority do you claim that the Bible is, as far as rectitude goes, "unequalled in human histories"? What about the stark historical inconsistencies and contradictions of the Synoptic Gospels? Have you read the Analects of Confucius, or the histories written by Herodotus, Thucydides, or Pliny the Elder? Somehow I doubt it.


You appear to be a consummate bag of wind.





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