Nov 30, 2011 -- 10:10AM, dsfin wrote:

Exodus 20:5-6 says your sins will follow for 3-4 generations and blessings for 1000.

That book also advocates the killing of any person who doesn't accept its religious paradigm.

And you actually haven't rendered those verses either accurately or honestly.

Dec 1, 2011 -- 9:11AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 12:24AM, Namchuck wrote:

Nov 30, 2011 -- 10:10AM, dsfin wrote:

Exodus 20:5-6 says your sins will follow for 3-4 generations and blessings for 1000.

That book also advocates the killing of any person who doesn't accept its religious paradigm.

And you actually haven't rendered those verses either accurately or honestly.

It is not talking about children suffering for their parents sins...Deuteronomy 24:16; Ezekiel 18:20

People born with aids in Africa or those born to Leave it to Beaver homes are not a coincidence. It is a reward of their last life.

Exodus 20:5-6 is talking about children suffering for their parents sins.

Deuteronomy 24:16, on the other hand, represents a totally different and contradictory tradition.

Neither reference, and including Ezekiel 18:20, has anything to do with the notion of reincarnation, which came much much later in certain Jewish thought and was borrowed from elsewhere.

Your assertion about AIDS in Africa is simply silly. 

Dec 2, 2011 -- 7:47PM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 2, 2011 -- 1:14AM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 9:11AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 12:24AM, Namchuck wrote:

Nov 30, 2011 -- 10:10AM, dsfin wrote:

Exodus 20:5-6 says your sins will follow for 3-4 generations and blessings for 1000.

That book also advocates the killing of any person who doesn't accept its religious paradigm.

And you actually haven't rendered those verses either accurately or honestly.

It is not talking about children suffering for their parents sins...Deuteronomy 24:16; Ezekiel 18:20

People born with aids in Africa or those born to Leave it to Beaver homes are not a coincidence. It is a reward of their last life.

Exodus 20:5-6 is talking about children suffering for their parents sins.

Deuteronomy 24:16, on the other hand, represents a totally different and contradictory tradition.

Neither reference, and including Ezekiel 18:20, has anything to do with the notion of reincarnation, which came much much later in certain Jewish thought and was borrowed from elsewhere.

Your assertion about AIDS in Africa is simply silly. 

Children are not punished for their parents sins.

Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 says all your sins are punished into your next life time.

According to Exodus 20:5-6 they are, and Leviticus and Deuteronomy say no such thing.

Reincarnational assertions have no more validity than claims for resurrection. Both are notions advanced by those unable to face the inevitability of their own certain extinction.

Dec 3, 2011 -- 9:39AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 3, 2011 -- 1:00AM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 2, 2011 -- 7:47PM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 2, 2011 -- 1:14AM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 9:11AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 12:24AM, Namchuck wrote:

Nov 30, 2011 -- 10:10AM, dsfin wrote:

Exodus 20:5-6 says your sins will follow for 3-4 generations and blessings for 1000.

That book also advocates the killing of any person who doesn't accept its religious paradigm.

And you actually haven't rendered those verses either accurately or honestly.

It is not talking about children suffering for their parents sins...Deuteronomy 24:16; Ezekiel 18:20

People born with aids in Africa or those born to Leave it to Beaver homes are not a coincidence. It is a reward of their last life.

Exodus 20:5-6 is talking about children suffering for their parents sins.

Deuteronomy 24:16, on the other hand, represents a totally different and contradictory tradition.

Neither reference, and including Ezekiel 18:20, has anything to do with the notion of reincarnation, which came much much later in certain Jewish thought and was borrowed from elsewhere.

Your assertion about AIDS in Africa is simply silly. 

Children are not punished for their parents sins.

Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 says all your sins are punished into your next life time.

According to Exodus 20:5-6 they are, and Leviticus and Deuteronomy say no such thing.

Reincarnational assertions have no more validity than claims for resurrection. Both are notions advanced by those unable to face the inevitability of their own certain extinction.

Reincarnation is resurection. What you are hoping for is no punishment for your sins. That also means no reward. My life has been great and I look forward to a repeat.

So, you don't understand the difference between reincarnation and resurrection either? Sheesh!

And I guessed that carrots and sticks would likely be the motivation behind your belief in reincarnation.

By the way, my life has been great too, but, unlike you, I'm neither credulous nor greedy.

Dec 3, 2011 -- 5:28PM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 3, 2011 -- 2:22PM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 3, 2011 -- 9:39AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 3, 2011 -- 1:00AM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 2, 2011 -- 7:47PM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 2, 2011 -- 1:14AM, Namchuck wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 9:11AM, dsfin wrote:

Dec 1, 2011 -- 12:24AM, Namchuck wrote:

Nov 30, 2011 -- 10:10AM, dsfin wrote:

Exodus 20:5-6 says your sins will follow for 3-4 generations and blessings for 1000.

That book also advocates the killing of any person who doesn't accept its religious paradigm.

And you actually haven't rendered those verses either accurately or honestly.

It is not talking about children suffering for their parents sins...Deuteronomy 24:16; Ezekiel 18:20

People born with aids in Africa or those born to Leave it to Beaver homes are not a coincidence. It is a reward of their last life.

Exodus 20:5-6 is talking about children suffering for their parents sins.

Deuteronomy 24:16, on the other hand, represents a totally different and contradictory tradition.

Neither reference, and including Ezekiel 18:20, has anything to do with the notion of reincarnation, which came much much later in certain Jewish thought and was borrowed from elsewhere.

Your assertion about AIDS in Africa is simply silly. 

Children are not punished for their parents sins.

Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 says all your sins are punished into your next life time.

According to Exodus 20:5-6 they are, and Leviticus and Deuteronomy say no such thing.

Reincarnational assertions have no more validity than claims for resurrection. Both are notions advanced by those unable to face the inevitability of their own certain extinction.

Reincarnation is resurection. What you are hoping for is no punishment for your sins. That also means no reward. My life has been great and I look forward to a repeat.

So, you don't understand the difference between reincarnation and resurrection either? Sheesh!

And I guessed that carrots and sticks would likely be the motivation behind your belief in reincarnation.

By the way, my life has been great too, but, unlike you, I'm neither credulous nor greedy.

Without a belief in an afterlife there is no reason to be good or moral.

Are you trying to tell me that unless life continues in the hereafter there is no reason to be moral?

What nonsense. Countless numbers of people choose to be moral because being moral is good in and of itself. We are social creatures amd morality is part of the glue that holds society together. One doesn't need unjustified beliefs like reincarnation to be moral.

Your reward will be the same as Hitler or Mother Teressa. Everything is luck of the draw.

Life is its own reward and there is no evidence whatsoever that life continues after death. Life after death is merely wishful thinking, largely indulged in by those unable to handle the bare facts of life and nature.

 How can reincarnation be greedy?

Because it represents the overwrought desire for more than the one life each of us gets. Greedy people always want more and more.