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4 years ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 3:51PM #1
precept
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Could I be enlightened? re Is  the lunar month/lunar calendar, from the time of the ancient Israelites , still in use in orthodox Judaism?


And how is the numbering of each day of the week determined?


If the last day of the previously completed lunar month is the 5th day; what is the numbered day of the first day of the now following lunar month? Is it the first day of the week or the 6th day of the week?


 


I am confused as to whether  numbering the days of the lunar month in any way disrupt the weekly sequence of the seven days in the weekly cycle.


And more specifically; if the last day of the  expired lunar month is the 5th day...what day follows re the following lunar month...is it the 6th day?


I do appreciate your patience in seeing me through my ignorance of this matter.


 


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3 years ago  ::  Nov 27, 2009 - 10:47PM #2
Pam34
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The first day of the month is still 'Monday', or 'Wednesday' in English, no matter what 'day of the month' it is, correct? Well it is exactly the same in the Jewish lunar calendar - this might be the 'tenth of Cheshvan' but it is still 'Thursday' (or 'fifth day' in the Hebrew naming of weekdays). It's the fifth day (for instance) of the WEEK, no matter what the DATE may be.


 


The only day with a 'real name' is Shabbat. Every other day is named in order leading up to Shabbat - First Day, Second Day, etc. Weeks pay little attention to monthly dates.


 


The Jewish calendar is lunar-solar: each month begins on a new moon, but we add 'leap days' (actually, an entire MONTH) regularly in order to keep the DATED holy days in their proper seasons - thus Passover is always in Spring (and always on the 14th day of the month of Nisan) and the High Holy Days are always in the autumn.


You could think of it this way also - weeks are continuously revolving, but months begin and end and start the 'clock' over.


The leap month is inserted prior to Nisan, in the spring, approximately every third year (nine times in 17 years), pushing the dates back 29-30 days - a purely lunar calendar falls behind the solar (seasonal) year 11 days annually.


 

Blessed are You, HaShem, Who blesses the years.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2010 - 2:35AM #3
Ariel_bty
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I suspecct you have been drinking or are on drugs.  The 5th day of the month is a non-sensical issue.  The Hebrew calendar is not a lunar calendar.  Your Islamic liar friend deceived you.


Even if, which it does not, the 5th mattered, all Jews would say WHY!!!!


We require explanation.  It is Christians and Muslims that accept blind mytical smoke.


 


 

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2010 - 8:38PM #4
Pam34
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What??


 


I don't like to be confrontational, but yes indeed the Jewish calendar definitely IS a 'lunar calendar'. Every month begins on the new moon. The 14th/15th of each month is the full moon. Each month is 29 or 30 days long....the cycle of the moon.


 


It's a lunar calendar.


 


However, it isn't a 'purely' lunar calendar.


 


The seasons of the year are driven by the solar cycle - the time it takes the earth to move around the sun. The Jewish LUNAR calendar adds a month seven times in nineteen years, on a regular cyclel, to keep the months (which are lunar) in their appropriate SEASONS - spring months like Nisan in the spring, Fall months like Tishri in the fall.


 


Since a 'lunar year' falls behind a solar year by 11 days (about) annually, we add a thirty day month every two to three years (it varies through the nineteen year cycle), in between winter and spring - it's called 'Adar II' because it comes after Adar.


 


Our new year begins in the fall with the first of the month of Tishri, which is the holiday of Rosh Hashana.


 


Days of the week are irrelevant to the moon or to the sun - they are independent. The first day of the month may fall on any day, just as 'June 1st' can be any day of the week. We don't start the WEEKS over at the start of a month. If it's Tuesday, it's Tuesday still, no matter what the month's date might be.

Blessed are You, HaShem, Who blesses the years.
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