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9 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2009 - 11:11AM #31
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Jun 23, 2009 -- 9:21AM, he-man wrote:


Words that were hidden, so as to soften the meaning of the Apostles and Christ and the actual meaning as Bolded and underlined..


Mk 1:27 Greek επιτασσει <2004> commandeers; take by force
1:34 Greek θεραπευω <2323> salved, verb, archaic; term for salvage; -save from destruction; rescue; remedy
4:17 Greek σκαωδαλιζω <4624> scandalized; offended, affronted, insulted; also v. 6:3, 14:27,29
5:2 Greek ακαθαρτω <169> verminous, unclean morally impure unwashed; also v. 8,13; 6:7
5:29 Greek πηγη <4077> fount, source, origin


6:8 Greek ραβδος <4464>walking stick, rod, shaft, staff


6:25 Greek πινακ <4094> board, panel; also v. 28



6:37 *pennyweight= 32 grains of wheat from the middle of the ear


6:51 *Greek εξεστησαν <1839> put (standing) out of wits


6:55 *Greek κακως badly΄also v. 2:17


6:56 *Greek θεραπευω salved; delivered from


7:10 *Greek βρομόστομος bad mouth


7:19 *Greek αφοδοωνα defecation


8:7 *Greek σφυριδας grouper (sea basses) also v. 8 and 20


8:17 *Greek πεπωρωμένη calloused


8:20 *Greek πλήρωμα crew, group of people working together
ME, in sense 'band of soldiers': from OFr. creue 'augmentation, increase', feminine past participle of croistre 'grow', from L. crescer
Hdt.8.43,45; crew, make up the full number of citizens, Arist.Pol.1267b16, 1284a5, cf. 1291a17, Pl.R.371e; τω̂ν φίλων π. ἀθροίσας E.Ion664 ; gang of workmen, PPetr.3p.130 (iii B. C.). reserves of troops, στρατιω̂ν Lyd.Mag.3.44 (pl.).




 


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2009 - 12:03PM #32
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Jun 26, 2009 -- 11:11AM, he-man wrote:


Jun 23, 2009 -- 9:21AM, he-man wrote:


Words that were hidden, so as to soften the meaning of the Apostles and Christ and the actual meaning as Bolded and underlined..


Mk 1:27 Greek επιτασσει <2004> commandeers; take by force
1:34 Greek θεραπευω <2323> salved, verb, archaic; term for salvage; -save from destruction; rescue; remedy
4:17 Greek σκαωδαλιζω <4624> scandalized; offended, affronted, insulted; also v. 6:3, 14:27,29
5:2 Greek ακαθαρτω <169> verminous, unclean morally impure unwashed; also v. 8,13; 6:7
5:29 Greek πηγη <4077> fount, source, origin


6:8 Greek ραβδος <4464>walking stick, rod, shaft, staff


6:25 Greek πινακ <4094> board, panel; also v. 28



6:37 *pennyweight= 32 grains of wheat from the middle of the ear


6:51 *Greek εξεστησαν <1839> put (standing) out of wits


6:55 *Greek κακως badly΄also v. 2:17


6:56 *Greek θεραπευω salved; delivered from


7:10 *Greek βρομόστομος bad mouth


7:19 *Greek αφοδοωνα defecation


8:7 *Greek σφυριδας grouper (sea basses) also v. 8 and 20


8:17 *Greek πεπωρωμένη calloused


8:20 *Greek πλήρωμα crew, group of people working together
ME, in sense 'band of soldiers': from OFr. creue 'augmentation, increase', feminine past participle of croistre 'grow', from L. crescer


Hdt.8.43,45; crew, make up the full number of citizens, Arist.Pol.1267b16, 1284a5, cf. 1291a17, Pl.R.371e; τω̂ν φίλων π. ἀθροίσας E.Ion664 ; gang of workmen, PPetr.3p.130 (iii B. C.). reserves of troops, στρατιω̂ν Lyd.Mag.3.44 (pl.).



8:31 *Greek αποκτανθηται brutalized, dehumanized see also v. 9:31

8:36 *Greek ζημιωθη harm, damage

9:42 *Greek τράχηλος scruff back of the neck, nape

9:45 * Greek αποκόπτω  cut off elide "slurred excise

9:45 * Greek χωλόν/ος halt archaic for lame

9¨48 * Greek σκώληξ larva JM Latin-English Dictionary evil spirit demon devil ghost specter hobgoblin
(denoting a disembodied spirit or ghost): from L., lit. 'ghost, mask'. © Oxford University Press,


10:4 * Greek βιβλίον book

10¨4 * Greek αποστάτσιου apostate

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2009 - 3:20PM #33
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Mark 10:5 * Greek σκληροκαρδιαν OBDURATE Origin ME (orig. in the sense 'impenitent'): from L. obduratus, past participle of obdurare, from ob- 'in opposition' + durare 'harden'. © Oxford University Press, 2004

10:9  * Greek θεω Creator also see v. 27

10:19 * Exodus 20:12-16; Deuteronomy 5:16-20

10:21 * Omit: having taken up the cross.

10:23 *Greek χρηματα money, shekel

10:24 * Omit: for those who trust in riches

10:25 * Greek διελθειν a way out

10:27 * Greek θεω Creator

10:33 * Greek κατακρίνουσιν blame, deprecate, reproach,

10:43 *Greek διακονος servant

10:44 *Greek δουλος slave; bond servant 

10:45 * Greek λυτρον the price or payment made  Origin  ME: from OFr. ransoun (n.), ransouner (v.), from L. redemptio(n-)

10:46 *Greek παρακαλω ask to grant a favor

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2009 - 10:10AM #34
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Mk 10:47 *Greek παρακαλω petitioning, ask to grant a favor


11:2 πώλος foal

11:8 * Greek εκ των αγρων from the field

11:9 *Greek  Hosanna "God save"  an exclamation of praise that literally means “God saves”; also in 11:10; * Psalm  118:25-26; 148:1.

11:16 *Greek σκεύη hardware, utensils

11:22 *used by Cicero of Caesar Att. 8.9.4. Epicr.3.13

11:26 *Omitted MSS- But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your sins.

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2009 - 6:07PM #35
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What bible translators don't want you to know is that there is a whole lot of guessing going on, esp. in the Old T.  Also, that the translators don't understand many of the symbpols that are used, esp. the astrological ones.

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9 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2009 - 10:30PM #36
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Mark 12:6 * Greek εντποριασμενος  humiliated, shamefaced


12:9 * Greek ελευσεται "the Advent" 2nd coming


12:10, 11 *Ps 118:22-23. 


12:14 * Greek  οπσις face


12:15 * Greek  denarion a pennyweight 32 grains of wheat from the middle of the ear


12:33 * Greek ολοκαύτωμα sacrificial offering burnt on an altar ME: holos "completely" and kaustos "burnt"), also known as Ha-Shoah  from OFr. holocauste, via late L. from Gk holokauston, from holos 'whole' + kaustos 'burnt'.


12:36 * Psalm 110:1


12:42 * Roman copper coin worth about 1/64 of a denarius.


12:44 * Greek υστερησεως hardship, lack, privation

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 12, 2009 - 7:08PM #37
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Jul 7, 2009 -- 10:30PM, he-man wrote:


Mark 12:6 * Greek εντποριασμενος  humiliated, shamefaced


12:9 * Greek ελευσεται "the Advent" 2nd coming


12:10, 11 *Ps 118:22-23. 


12:14 * Greek  οπσις face


12:15 * Greek  denarion a pennyweight 32 grains of wheat from the middle of the ear


12:33 * Greek ολοκαύτωμα sacrificial offering burnt on an altar ME: holos "completely" and kaustos "burnt"), also known as Ha-Shoah  from OFr. holocauste, via late L. from Gk holokauston, from holos 'whole' + kaustos 'burnt'.


12:36 * Psalm 110:1


12:42 * Roman copper coin worth about 1/64 of a denarius.


12:44 * Greek υστερησεως hardship, lack, privation



Mark 13:14 * Greek the abomination of desolation. See Dan 9:27; 11:31; 12:11.


13:30 * Greek το παρελθετω bygone; παρελθόν past record;  παρέρχομαι blow over, elapse also v. 31



14:1 * Feast of unleavened bread


14:11 * Greek αργυριον  silver

14:12 * Greek εθυον immolated


14:13 * Greek κεραμιον pottery

14:14 * Greek καταλυμα  lodging quarters; theological principle to translate by accommodation

14:15 * Greek εστρωμενον covered with straw 


14:20 * Greek τρυβλιω plate


14:25 * Greek γενιμενος "to be born"


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 18, 2009 - 5:25PM #38
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Mk 14:33 * Greek αδημονειν impatience

14:38 * Greek ασθενες spiritless, weak

14:41 * Greek αμαρτωλων   criminals

14:43 * Greek ξυλων plank, (wale) also v. 48

14:51 * Greek περιβεβλεμενος especially in ecclesiastical vestments

14:54 * Greek υπηρετων servants (WEB)

14:72 * Greek επιβαλων impose, require, compel, force upon; put the mind on, or thoughts

15:3 * Omit "he answered nothing". MSS DBY RSV ASV NIV EAV

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2009 - 8:25AM #39
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Jul 18, 2009 -- 5:25PM, he-man wrote:


Mk 14:33 * Greek αδημονειν impatience

14:38 * Greek ασθενες spiritless, weak

14:41 * Greek αμαρτωλων   criminals

14:43 * Greek ξυλων plank, (wale) also v. 48

14:51 * Greek περιβεβλεμενος especially in ecclesiastical vestments

14:54 * Greek υπηρετων servants (WEB)

14:72 * Greek επιβαλων impose, require, compel, force upon; put the mind on, or thoughts


15:3 * Omit "he answered nothing". MSS DBY RSV ASV NIV EAV


Mark 15:10 * Omit chief-Priests MSS

15:13 * Greek σταυρωθητω to be fixed on a stake also v. 14, 15, 20, 24, 25

15:18 * Greek ασπάζοντο humorous kiss; "tongue-in-cheek" fashion

15:21 * Greek αίρω tote,to take; to carry

15:23 * labdanum a herbal medicine

15:26 * Greek αιτία, causation, occasion, sake ** Omit "his head" MSS

15:32 * Greek vituperated 'to censure, disparage'

15:41 * MSS Omit women

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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9 years ago  ::  Jul 24, 2009 - 2:23PM #40
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Mark 15:46 * Greek ενειλησεν closely coiled; involuted
* Greek θήκη case, casing, receptacle, , sheath  


15¨47 * Greek σάββατων the day of the week before Sunday and following Friday

16¨8 * Greek εκστασει  A bursting forth

16:9-20 OMITTED MSS


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