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5 years ago  ::  May 16, 2009 - 9:24AM #1
he-man
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That John wore a gridle made of leather and not a belt and about his hips not his loins.


That John wasn't able to  loosen the strap of Christ's sandals.


That John saw the Spirit going down on Christ, as a pigeon.


That the Spirit drove him out into the wilderness and the angels were serving him and not a supernatural satan.


That we are to think differently and believe in the gospel and that the the Kingship of God is coming;


That he was teaching them as one who had sway, and not as those learned in the Mosiac Law.


That they say "What is this new teaching? even with sway he commandeers the unclean spirits, and they abide him. "


That he salved many having bad manifold illnesses.


That Christ said to the leper," See, that you tell to no one anything;"


That Christ did not teach in the cities but without at isolated places and in houses.


That Levi of Alphaeus was sitting to take the duty.


That the ones being strong have no need of a physician, Jesus said to them:and I came not to call the upright, but sinners.


That the disciples of John and (Christ's) disciples did not fast as long a time as they had the bridegroom with them, they were not able to fast.


That No one sews a patch of clean cloth on to an old garment.


That no one puts new wine into old leather wine bags: if not the wine runs out.


That The sabbath became for man, and not man for the sabbath:  So that the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath.


Mark Chapters 1 and 2


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 17, 2009 - 10:10AM #2
he-man
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May 16, 2009 -- 9:24AM, he-man wrote:


That John wore a gridle made of leather and not a belt and about his hips not his loins.


That John wasn't able to  loosen the strap of Christ's sandals.


That John saw the Spirit going down on Christ, as a pigeon.


That the Spirit drove him out into the wilderness and the angels were serving him and not a supernatural satan.


That we are to think differently and believe in the gospel and that the the Kingship of God is coming;


That he was teaching them as one who had sway, and not as those learned in the Mosiac Law.


That they say "What is this new teaching? even with sway he commandeers the unclean spirits, and they abide him. "


That he salved many having bad manifold illnesses.


That Christ said to the leper," See, that you tell to no one anything;"


That Christ did not teach in the cities but without at isolated places and in houses.


That Levi of Alphaeus was sitting to take the duty.


That the ones being strong have no need of a physician, Jesus said to them:and I came not to call the upright, but sinners.


That the disciples of John and (Christ's) disciples did not fast as long a time as they had the bridegroom with them, they were not able to fast.


That No one sews a patch of clean cloth on to an old garment.


That no one puts new wine into old leather wine bags: if not the wine runs out.


That The sabbath became for man, and not man for the sabbath:  So that the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath.


Mark Chapters 1 and 2



That you are a life to salve, or to brutalize.


That Jesus looked round about them with anger.


That he salved many.


That they should not make him apparent.


That they said––He (Christ) is out of his wits!


That whoever curses the Holy Spirit, has no forgiveness, to the ages,––but he is guilty of  the offenses forever


That is because they said––He has a unclean spirit! And by the prince of the demons, he drives out demons.


That Whoever shall do the errands of God that is who my mother and the brothers are?


That the prickle is the world and it grew up together with the word of God and suffocated it.


That to those that are outside (the rest of the world), all things are done in parables


That if you do not know this parable?" you will not know the authority (who God is) of the parables.


That these are they from the way (outside), like those sown on the rocks, have no root.


That the causes that make one yearn concerning wealth, suffocate the word and it becomes unfruitful.


That when the fruit is delivered, at once he sends away for the sickle, to stand before the harvest.


That  he did not speak to them without a parable: but to his own disciples, altogether privately, he solved all.


That when the storm hit he was in the poop, sleeping on a pillow for the head.


That God controls the weather; he reprimanded the wind, and said to the sea, be still, be gagged. And the wind subsided, and a great calm happened.


That the disciples said, Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 18, 2009 - 9:56AM #3
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That Christ restored those having  Epilepsy to a spiritual frame of mind.


That he freed those possesed by verminous disease from having any mental disorders.


That they began to appeal to him (Jesus) to depart from their borders


That the woman had an issue of blood, in her stools.


That the doctors had consumed all her money and not cured her and she still had an issue of blood even worse.


That the *fount of her blood was dried up when she touched the garment of Jesus. *fount = source, cause


That her faith  delivered her from destruction.


That they said, Your daughter is dead: why do you hound the teacher? Jesus mis-heard and said,  Do not fear, only believe.


That when the girl stood up, and walked, he enjoined them more that no one should know.


That he taught and hearing him many  were stunned, saying,  “From what is the source of these things? and, “What is the wisdom that is given  and as such causes  this to be able to happen through his hands?


That he was this person, the mason, the son of Mary.


That they should take nothing for their journey, except a *crook only: no bread, no bag, no copper in their girdle, but to put on sandals, and not to put on two tunics.  *shepherd's crook  a long staff with one end being hook shaped.        [What no sword?]


Mark Chapter 5, to Chapter 6:9


 


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 19, 2009 - 9:06AM #4
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That you are not to go door to door, if you enter into a house, stay there!


That Herod's speculator fetched John's head on a board  not a platter or dish, and gave it to the daughter of Herodias.


That the disciples thought Jesus  walking on water, was a phantom.


That they were put out of their wits immensely when the wind subsided.


That the  Pharisees, if they do not sprinkle, they do not eat.


That they accused the  apostles of eating the loaf with vulgar hands.


That the Pharisees, like todays preachers, in vain they revere me teaching teachings written of men.


That they were abrogating the commandments of God so that you may observe your own renditions (Easter, Christmas, Lent, etc.) like many similar things ye do.


That the things proceeding out from men, are the things that make men vulgar.


That inside the heart of men contemplates the wicked and proceeds out as prostitution, thievery, murderous slayers,  adulteries, greed, wickedness, fraud, libidinousness, evil eyes, blasphemies, pride, injudiciousness,  all these things proceed out of the evil inside and makes the men vulgar. (The devil didn't do it, you did!)


That Jesus placed his fingers into his ears,  of the deaf, and stammering, and he spit, and touched his tongue. And looking up to heaven, he groaned, and said to him, Ephphatha, that is, "to open".And his hearing was opened, and the bond of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke aright.


That AGAIN, And he enjoined them that no one should speak out (about it)or tell anyone.


That they  were stunned beyond measure. Mark Chapter 6:10-Chapter 8


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 19, 2009 - 9:43AM #5
Bob Wells
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There is nothing in this list that matters.

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5 years ago  ::  May 20, 2009 - 9:09AM #6
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May 19, 2009 -- 9:43AM, Bob Wells wrote:

There is nothing in this list that matters.



Hey, we got more...........


That they were not just fish, they had a few spawners


That they took up an abundance of broken pieces, seven sea bass


That they neglected to take loaves, except one


That they reasoned  because they had no bread?


That he said, "What was the total sum  of the baskets of broken pieces you took up?"


That of the 4,000, the quanity of sea basses of broken pieces, the crew of you took up?'`How do you not comprehend?


That the blind saw men, that look as trees, walking...and he saw everyone at a distance


That Jesus asked -- who do you say me to be?' and Peter answering said to him, `You are the Anointed.'


That AGAIN  he asked them that by no means they should tell about him.


That he was to be disapproved of the high priests and of the elders, and scribes, and to be brutalized, and after three days to be resurrected.


That he reprimanded Peter, and said, Get back behind me, adversary; because you are not thinking the things of God, but the things of men.


That If anyone wishes to come behind me, let him deny himself (see above Get back behind me)


That he said,  what can a man give in trade for his life?


That Jesus was transformed in private


That his garments became shining, very white, such as upon the earth was not fully able to whiten in this way


That AGAIN, he enjoined them that they should relate to no one what they saw


Mark Chapter 8 to Chapter 9:9


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 21, 2009 - 10:21AM #7
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That they kept the word to themselves.


That Elias has come as is it written for the Son of Man, that he should suffer many things and should be killed


That the crowd  kissed him. Not saluted him.


That a mute with eplipsy convulsed and foams and grinds his teeth,


That AGAIN he passed through Galilee; and did not want anyone to know


That Jesus they will brutalize.  And having been dehumanized, after three days he will stand up.”


That Jesus said "If anyone wishes to be first, he shall be last of all and a servant of all."


That Jesus said, "You do not receive me, but the One having sent me"


That Mr 9:44 (Omitted) MSS


That if your foot scandalizes you, elide it.


That Mr 9:46 (Omitted) MSS


That Where their larva does not end,  the fire is not quenched. [* Isa 66:24.]


That all shall be salted with fire.


That you are to Have salt in yourselves


That the Pharisees asked him if it is excepted for a husband to dismiss a wife


That Jesus said from the beginning of the creation, God 'made them male and female.'[*Genesis 1:27; 5:2] What then the Creator has joined together, let not a man sever.


That the disciples asked him  about this


That he replies: Who if shall dismiss his wife and shall marry another, commits adultery against her.


That  if she should dismiss her husband and shall marry another, commits adultery.


Mark 9:10 to Mark 10:12


 


 


 

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 22, 2009 - 10:26AM #8
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That one running up, genuflected to him.


That Jesus asked, " Why do you come out with me as good? No one is good except one, God.


That he looked sad at that saying, "as much as you have sell," and he went away regretful: for he had many *temporalities. *Greek= κτηματα temporalities: the properties and revenues of a religious body or clergy, especially ecclesiatic proceedings from lands, tenements, or lay fees, tithes, etc.


That Jesus said, "“How difficult it is to come into the kingdom of God for the ones having money!"


That It is easier for a camels way out through the* needle's eye, than the wealthy to enter into the kingdom of God. * Greek ματι: opening referring to the side gate, close to the principal gate


That Jesus began to tell them the future things to happen to him


That the priests, and  the scribes, shall deprecate him, to kill him, and shall hand him over to the Gentiles. (the Romans and non-believing Greeks).


That they will laugh at him, and will spit upon him, and will whip him, and they will dehumanize him: and after three days he will stand up.


That Jesus was not equal to God: but to sit from my right and or out of the left is not mine to give, but to whom it has been made ready."


That  who if wishes to be first among you shall be *slave of all. *Greek δουλος slave


That opposing many, Jesus gave his life as a payment made.


Mark 10:13 to 10:52


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 







1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
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5 years ago  ::  May 23, 2009 - 6:03AM #9
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If you translate word for word then you get some weird readings. The next step is to ask,; I wounder what the writer was trying to say?

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5 years ago  ::  May 23, 2009 - 5:34PM #10
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May 23, 2009 -- 6:03AM, Bob Wells wrote:


If you translate word for word then you get some weird readings. The next step is to ask,; I wounder what the writer was trying to say?




Ain't that the truth? How could so many translators use the word for money as riches instead of what was actually written? χρματα <5535> money, sheckel


CHECK IT OUT! The translators did not want to admit that they had to much MONEY!


μαμμωνας<3126> riches, wealth or  πλουτος <4149> abundance of wealth


χρματα <5535> money, sheckel


Heman wrote:


CLF That Jesus said, "“How difficult it is to come into the kingdom of God for the ones having money!" χρματα <5535> money, sheckel


All the rest mistranslate the word MONEY as RICHES!


TR Κα περιβλεψμενος ησος λγει τος μαθητας ατο Πς δυσκλως ο τ χρματα χοντες ες τν βασιλεαν το θεο εσελεσονται


mGNT κα περιβλεψμενος ησος λγει τος μαθητας ατο πς δυσκλως ο τ χρματα χοντες ες τν βασιλεαν το θεο εσελεσονται


KJV And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!


NKJV Then Jesus looked around and said to His disciples, "How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!"


NLT Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for rich people to get into the Kingdom of God!"


NIV Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”


ESV And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!”


RVR Entonces Jesús, mirando alrededor, dijo a sus discípulos: ¡Cuán difícilmente entrarán en el reino de Dios los que tienen riquezas!


NASB And Jesus, looking around, *said to His disciples, "How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!"


RSV And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it will be for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!"


ASV And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!


YNG And Jesus having looked round, saith to his disciples, `How hardly shall they who have riches enter into the reign of God!'


DBY And Jesus looking around says to his disciples, How difficultly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!


WEB And Jesus looked around, and saith to his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!


HNV Yeshua looked around, and said to his talmidim, "How difficult it is for those who have riches to enter into the Kingdom of God!"


VUL et circumspiciens Iesus ait discipulis suis quam difficile qui pecunias habent in regnum Dei introibunt

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