Post Reply
Page 4 of 4  •  Prev 1 2 3 4
4 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2009 - 10:39AM #31
flitzerbiest
Posts: 175

flitzerbiest wrote:

So now your argument is if the Bible contains accurate historical references then it is inspired by God.  By this logic, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is also inspired, perhaps more so.

Try again?


he-man wrote:

Just because you say so does not provide evidence of non-inspiration. You fail to PROVIDE any evidence the the BIBLE is not inspired, where is YOUR silent proof?


One need not disprove a phenomenon for which there is no precedent.  Yes, the Bible contains history.  So does this morning's paper, which I take (I assume without argument) to be the product of human hands.

Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2009 - 3:53PM #32
he-man
Posts: 3,869

flitzerbiest wrote:

One need not disprove a phenomenon for which there is no precedent.  Yes, the Bible contains history.  So does this morning's paper, which I take (I assume without argument) to be the product of human hands.


there is no precedent? Where have you been all of your life? In a Cave somewhere?

From what is your precedent that the Bible is not inspired? H'mmm...Silent Argument again? Many people use the "Silent Argument" and suppose to suggest that the Bible is not inspired. Go to
http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/moab … ne-faq.htm

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2009 - 5:59PM #33
flitzerbiest
Posts: 175

flitzerbiest wrote:

One need not disprove a phenomenon for which there is no precedent.  Yes, the Bible contains history.  So does this morning's paper, which I take (I assume without argument) to be the product of human hands.


he-man wrote:

there is no precedent? Where have you been all of your life? In a Cave somewhere?

From what is your precedent that the Bible is not inspired? H'mmm...Silent Argument again? Many people use the "Silent Argument" and suppose to suggest that the Bible is not inspired. Go to
http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/moab … ne-faq.htm


This is the same argument.  The fact that the Bible has historical attachments is not proof of divine inspiration.  One does not need to prove a negative.  The burden is on those who claim special status for the Bible.  Ordinary status requires no such justification.

Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2009 - 7:01PM #34
he-man
Posts: 3,869

flitzerbiest wrote:

This is the same argument.  The fact that the Bible has historical attachments is not proof of divine inspiration.  One does not need to prove a negative.  The burden is on those who claim special status for the Bible.  Ordinary status requires no such justification.


Correct! The Ordinary status of the Bible to be inspired requires no such justification Your "epistemology" and how it relates to similar notions such as truth, belief, and justification is perceived as too negative. What you need is a super abundant supply of Epistemological realism  of objectivism, and an Idealistic 'Spiritual view' of the first advent to the Second Coming of Christ.

Perhaps then you would have a trifle more Immanence or concept of a deity that is very much associated with creation, who is all-present in the world, and is close to believers.

The burden is on those who claim not to have knowlede or enough perception to become aware of or grasp, understand, comprehend, or be able to appreciate the sense of what is divine.

Have you considered by pass surgery?
Eze 11:19  And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2009 - 7:20PM #35
flitzerbiest
Posts: 175

flitzerbiest wrote:

This is the same argument.  The fact that the Bible has historical attachments is not proof of divine inspiration.  One does not need to prove a negative.  The burden is on those who claim special status for the Bible.  Ordinary status requires no such justification.


he-man wrote:

Correct! The Ordinary status of the Bible to be inspired requires no such justification.


Please explain how an inscription that shows that someone mentioned in the Bible actually existed constitutes proof or even evidence of divine inspiration.  By the standard you have advanced, nearly every newspaper, magazine and a good bit of all fiction is divinely inspired.  You have merely demonstrated that the biblical authors lived in a historical context, a fact which was not in dispute.

Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 23, 2009 - 10:28AM #36
flitzerbiest
Posts: 175

he-man wrote:

Okay here is the inscription that proves the Bible is inspired:

Mr 15:26  And the inscription of the cusation was written over him, THE KING OF THE JUDAEANS.


Whoa.  That proves, um...well...nothing actually.

Quick Reply
Cancel
4 years ago  ::  Feb 23, 2009 - 8:13AM #37
he-man
Posts: 3,869

flitzerbiest wrote:

Please explain how an inscription that shows that someone mentioned in the Bible actually existed constitutes proof or even evidence of divine inspiration.  By the standard you have advanced, nearly every newspaper, magazine and a good bit of all fiction is divinely inspired.  You have merely demonstrated that the biblical authors lived in a historical context, a fact which was not in dispute.


Okay here is the inscription that proves the Bible is inspired:

Mr 15:26  And the inscription of the cusation was written over him, THE KING OF THE JUDAEANS.

You are walking on very thin ice, least you be cut off like Uzziah:
2 Chron 26:16) But when he was strong his heart was lifted up, to his destruction, for he transgressed against the LORD his God by entering the temple of the LORD to burn incense on the altar of incense. 18.......Get out of the sanctuary, for you have trespassed! You shall have no honor from the LORD God." 21) King Uzziah was a leper until the day of his death. He dwelt in an isolated house, because he was a leper; for he was cut off from the house of the LORD.

1Ch 25:5  All these were the sons of Heman the king’s seer (chozeh= to see) in the words of God, to lift up the horn.
Quick Reply
Cancel
Page 4 of 4  •  Prev 1 2 3 4
 
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing
    Advertisement

    Beliefnet On Facebook