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4 years ago  ::  Jan 18, 2011 - 3:47PM #41
teilhard
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Yes and No ...


Given the MANY reasonably accurately stated UNCERTAINTIES detailed below, any REASONABLE Scholar will have even MORE "difficulties" trying to "pin down" EXACTLY "Who" and "What" The (REAL) Historical Lord Jesus (The Christ) of Nazareth WAS and DID and SAID ...


What annoys many People of Faith is that SOME Scholars make The Gross ERROR of asserting their CLAIMS with too high a Degree of Certainty ... over against The Tradition and Faith of The Church ...


Dec 11, 2007 -- 3:00PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

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From a historical perspective the most we can say with reasonable certainty is that there was an itinerant teacher of wisdom who pi$$ed off too many Jewish and Roman authorities and fell victim to what was a very common prescription for anyone who defied authority at that time.


We will never be able to accurately date what few morsels of literature we have beyond some fairly wide time zones.


We'll never know how much literature was written and destroyed on the subject.


And we can't verify how much of what we have left that is the result of later creative editing.


It's this kind of critique that is causing difficulty for many Christians today.


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4 years ago  ::  Jan 25, 2011 - 7:44PM #42
teilhard
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So ... BACK to The TOPIC of "The Jesus Seminar" Forum ...


Jan 18, 2011 -- 3:47PM, teilhard wrote:


Yes and No ...


Given the MANY reasonably accurately stated UNCERTAINTIES detailed below, any REASONABLE Scholar will have even MORE "difficulties" trying to "pin down" EXACTLY "Who" and "What" The (REAL) Historical Lord Jesus (The Christ) of Nazareth WAS and DID and SAID ...


What annoys many People of Faith is that SOME Scholars make The Gross ERROR of asserting their CLAIMS with too high a Degree of Certainty ... over against The Tradition and Faith of The Church ...


Dec 11, 2007 -- 3:00PM, RJMcElwain wrote:

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From a historical perspective the most we can say with reasonable certainty is that there was an itinerant teacher of wisdom who pi$$ed off too many Jewish and Roman authorities and fell victim to what was a very common prescription for anyone who defied authority at that time.


We will never be able to accurately date what few morsels of literature we have beyond some fairly wide time zones.


We'll never know how much literature was written and destroyed on the subject.


And we can't verify how much of what we have left that is the result of later creative editing.


It's this kind of critique that is causing difficulty for many Christians today.


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