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2 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2011 - 1:29AM #11
mountain_man
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Mar 16, 2011 -- 1:20AM, JB4040 wrote:

I believe the prayer for Libya was made prior to the Japan catastrophe. Marshall has made a prayer for Japan which can be read here:


Well, tell him to stop. His prayers seem to be making things worse for Lybia and Japan.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2011 - 3:02AM #12
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For those who believe in God and in prayer praying for the situations in Libya and Japan are quite appropriate. This should be backed up with material contributions as needed and possible.


For those who do not believe in God and prayer may give material assistance.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2011 - 11:29AM #13
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Mar 16, 2011 -- 3:02AM, Bluedog1a wrote:

For those who believe in God and in prayer praying for the situations in Libya and Japan are quite appropriate. This should be backed up with material contributions as needed and possible.


It would be if done in private like the bible tells you to do. However, in this case it was done in public and done ONLY for the purpose of having people send him money.


For those who do not believe in God and prayer may give material assistance.


To those with no god beliefs such prayers are seen as comical.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2011 - 3:29PM #14
DotNotInOz
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Mar 16, 2011 -- 1:28AM, JB4040 wrote:

Mar 14, 2011 -- 5:31PM, DotNotInOz wrote:


I'm still waiting to hear or see anything that sounds like it came from God and not merely from an obviously articulate and intelligent man...Summers.





These prayers from Marshall are not coming from God. They are coming from an articulate and intelligent man, a man who happens to be the messenger. 

Nor does Marshall claim to receive the voice of God. He claims to receive the voice of the Angels, who are translating into human language God's New Message. So we have two things: the Messenger's Prayers (not from God) and the Revelations (from God, in the voice of the angels). An instance of the angels speaking through Marshall can be found here:
www.newmessage.org/theblessing


Thanks for implying that I'm so stupid that I was evidently unaware that the prayers Summers is saying are his own words and not from God.


Do try not to belabor the obvious, JB4040. It was quite evident that the prayer was Summers' petition. My reference was to your contention that Summers conveys any sort of "new" message from God.
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2011 - 4:01AM #15
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Mar 16, 2011 -- 11:29AM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 16, 2011 -- 3:02AM, Bluedog1a wrote:

For those who believe in God and in prayer praying for the situations in Libya and Japan are quite appropriate. This should be backed up with material contributions as needed and possible.


It would be if done in private like the bible tells you to do. However, in this case it was done in public and done ONLY for the purpose of having people send him money.


For those who do not believe in God and prayer may give material assistance.


To those with no god beliefs such prayers are seen as comical.





That is why I suggested that you atheists give money, food and other material items as needed.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 24, 2011 - 11:21AM #16
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One thing I think, and hope, that we all can agree about is that even if someone thinks prayer does not help, it does not hurt.


So I think this prayer is just fine, regardless of my own faith, etc.


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2 years ago  ::  Mar 24, 2011 - 12:30PM #17
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Hi, All!


Hi, RangerKen!  You wrote:  "One thing I think, and hope, that we all can agree about is that even if someone thinks prayer does not help, it does not hurt."

Mar 16, 2011 -- 1:29AM, mountain_man wrote:

Mar 16, 2011 -- 1:20AM, JB4040 wrote:

I believe the prayer for Libya was made prior to the Japan catastrophe. Marshall has made a prayer for Japan which can be read here:


Well, tell him to stop. His prayers seem to be making things worse for Lybia and Japan.


LOL!


Hmm...  I don't know, but I think that Dave might have a point.  ;-D


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2 years ago  ::  Mar 31, 2011 - 5:07PM #18
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