About a year ago I had my first a lucid dream. I dreampt I was on my old college campus - and I suddenly became aware that I was dreaming. My awareness grew sequentially - I specifically remember looking down at my legs and, when I noticed the path I was on it slowly dawned on me that I was on campus. This awareness seemed to "wake me up" in the sense that I hoped to see a woman, and then, following the stone path with my eyes, I saw the woman. I immediately talked to her - because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I reasoned and believed that she must be an oracle of sorts, and I was going to try to get as much information out of her as possible. I asked her whether I would be reaccepted to school, and she gave me a cryptic answer. She answered in the affirmative, saying something like "it will be like the water." When I awoke I understood this to mean that there would be "forces" (like tides) that would sweep me back to school.
My question is - has anyone ever communicated with a dream figure (in a lucid dream) - and the communication proved to be true in reality? I hope this question is not deemed "ridiculous" to you readers. I know I am putting a lot of weight on this particular dream.
I was so surprised that I "woke up" in this dream that I treated the woman/dream figure as an oracle. My reasoning was that she MUST be an oracle. Why else would I wake up in a dream unless my subconscious (or whatever) had something real and true to tell me? I wouldn't be mentioning it here, except that I was genuinely surprised that I dreampt so clearly about being back on campus (I haven't been there in 10+ years). The dream, and what it could mean, has stuck with me for the past year and has inspired me to take action. My question to the woman/oracle was earnestly asked. I've had another dream where a woman I don't know (the wife of a co-worker I greatly admired) urged me to re-apply.
I have a second question, which I don't know quite how to pose. I think it's more philosophical - so I'm interested in your theories. What is lucid dreaming all about? After the woman's initial answer I started saying to myself, "this is just my subconscious telling me what I want to hear" - and needless to say, I started to lose my "conscious grip". The dream faded away before she answered me. I woke up disappointed that I didn't get this answer, but it also seemed to me as though I prohibited my unconscious from speaking to me.
Undergirding this interpretation is my belief that the unconcious is timeless, eternal, autonomous and hence, wise. The dream re-awakened my desire for erudition and scholarship, but I have to overcome a lot of hurdles to "make my dream come true." So a year later, I'm ready to test out this theory. I want to believe that the woman in the dream is an oracle, of sorts. What do you think? Have your lucid dreams been instructive to you? If so, in what ways? I'm curious and I would like to learn from you all.
How much credence should I place on this figure's words (that I will be reaccepted)?
Thank you for reading, and for your thoughtful responses.
About a year ago I had my first a lucid dream. I dreampt I was on my old college campus - and I suddenly became aware that I was dreaming. My awareness grew sequentially - I specifically remember looking down at my legs and, when I noticed the path I was on it slowly dawned on me that I was on campus. This awareness seemed to "wake me up" in the sense that I hoped to see a woman, and then, following the stone path with my eyes, I saw the woman. I immediately talked to her - because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I reasoned and believed that she must be an oracle of sorts, and I was going to try to get as much information out of her as possible. I asked her whether I would be reaccepted to school, and she gave me a cryptic answer. She answered in the affirmative, saying something like "it will be like the water." When I awoke I understood this to mean that there would be "forces" (like tides) that would sweep me back to school.
My question is - has anyone ever communicated with a dream figure (in a lucid dream) - and the communication proved to be true in reality? I hope this question is not deemed "ridiculous" to you readers. I know I am putting a lot of weight on this particular dream.
I was so surprised that I "woke up" in this dream that I treated the woman/dream figure as an oracle. My reasoning was that she MUST be an oracle. Why else would I wake up in a dream unless my subconscious (or whatever) had something real and true to tell me? I wouldn't be mentioning it here, except that I was genuinely surprised that I dreampt so clearly about being back on campus (I haven't been there in 10+ years). The dream, and what it could mean, has stuck with me for the past year and has inspired me to take action. My question to the woman/oracle was earnestly asked. I've had another dream where a woman I don't know (the wife of a co-worker I greatly admired) urged me to re-apply.
I have a second question, which I don't know quite how to pose. I think it's more philosophical - so I'm interested in your theories. What is lucid dreaming all about? After the woman's initial answer I started saying to myself, "this is just my subconscious telling me what I want to hear" - and needless to say, I started to lose my "conscious grip". The dream faded away before she answered me. I woke up disappointed that I didn't get this answer, but it also seemed to me as though I prohibited my unconscious from speaking to me.
Undergirding this interpretation is my belief that the unconcious is timeless, eternal, autonomous and hence, wise. The dream re-awakened my desire for erudition and scholarship, but I have to overcome a lot of hurdles to "make my dream come true." So a year later, I'm ready to test out this theory. I want to believe that the woman in the dream is an oracle, of sorts. What do you think? Have your lucid dreams been instructive to you? If so, in what ways? I'm curious and I would like to learn from you all.
How much credence should I place on this figure's words (that I will be reaccepted)?
Thank you for reading, and for your thoughtful responses.
Sometimes, our problem is not with guidance but with making effective decisions. Theredream comes with much effort, a biblical statement. I never understood it until today. After you took steps to go to school. you had another dream which said, "Apply". The soulddoes not accomplish dreams; the conscious mind and will do. (I'll bet that you had thought about going to school again before these dreams ever happened).
The problem is putting the conscious mind at the service of something greater than itself. I think that your fascination with the dream figures is the work you are doing to integrate your guidance with your everyday life. It always feels like a risk to the mind until it realizes it is the the right thing to do. The soul knows destiny; the mind, everyday matters.
About a year ago I had my first a lucid dream. I dreampt I was on my old college campus - and I suddenly became aware that I was dreaming. My awareness grew sequentially - I specifically remember looking down at my legs and, when I noticed the path I was on it slowly dawned on me that I was on campus. This awareness seemed to "wake me up" in the sense that I hoped to see a woman, and then, following the stone path with my eyes, I saw the woman. I immediately talked to her - because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I reasoned and believed that she must be an oracle of sorts, and I was going to try to get as much information out of her as possible. I asked her whether I would be reaccepted to school, and she gave me a cryptic answer. She answered in the affirmative, saying something like "it will be like the water." When I awoke I understood this to mean that there would be "forces" (like tides) that would sweep me back to school.
My question is - has anyone ever communicated with a dream figure (in a lucid dream) - and the communication proved to be true in reality? I hope this question is not deemed "ridiculous" to you readers. I know I am putting a lot of weight on this particular dream.
I was so surprised that I "woke up" in this dream that I treated the woman/dream figure as an oracle. My reasoning was that she MUST be an oracle. Why else would I wake up in a dream unless my subconscious (or whatever) had something real and true to tell me? I wouldn't be mentioning it here, except that I was genuinely surprised that I dreampt so clearly about being back on campus (I haven't been there in 10+ years). The dream, and what it could mean, has stuck with me for the past year and has inspired me to take action. My question to the woman/oracle was earnestly asked. I've had another dream where a woman I don't know (the wife of a co-worker I greatly admired) urged me to re-apply.
I have a second question, which I don't know quite how to pose. I think it's more philosophical - so I'm interested in your theories. What is lucid dreaming all about? After the woman's initial answer I started saying to myself, "this is just my subconscious telling me what I want to hear" - and needless to say, I started to lose my "conscious grip". The dream faded away before she answered me. I woke up disappointed that I didn't get this answer, but it also seemed to me as though I prohibited my unconscious from speaking to me.
Undergirding this interpretation is my belief that the unconcious is timeless, eternal, autonomous and hence, wise. The dream re-awakened my desire for erudition and scholarship, but I have to overcome a lot of hurdles to "make my dream come true." So a year later, I'm ready to test out this theory. I want to believe that the woman in the dream is an oracle, of sorts. What do you think? Have your lucid dreams been instructive to you? If so, in what ways? I'm curious and I would like to learn from you all.
How much credence should I place on this figure's words (that I will be reaccepted)?
Thank you for reading, and for your thoughtful responses.
Notice that your expectations to meet a certain woman led you to meet his same woman.
I've been lucid dreaming since i was about 14 .. born 3/17/1965...
There are tests to validate that a dream / visionary figure is "for real" and not merely leading one down the road to perdition. I personally would ask the "woman" to prove who she is by asking her to perform some "miracle/action" in the waking world. If she can do such 3 times and no negative benefits accrue to anyone involved then i'd take her more seriously. The spirits of the "other" world can be quite willy ie trickster like. What matters is that the figure speaking or relaying info isn't out to destroy you or others. Not all figures we meet in that spirit realm of sleep/dream are beneficial.
Yes-I was awake and I knew I was dreaming. It was a weird sensation. This is why I took a "let me take full advantage of this situation" attitude, and started "looking" for someone to talk to.
I'm curious about lucid dreaming. On the one hand I want to say that she is a figment of my subconscious imagination. This was an imagination that I didn't have direct access to, but it seemed that I still communicated with it. For example, when I decided to "find someone to talk to", this decision came from my reasoning, willful, conscious me, but I also had to take a "Hm.. let's see" attitude as I waited to see what images would "appear" next.
It seemed as though my subconscious was running a dream sequence with no help from me, and I was a casual onlooker with the ability to either be drawn in or "stay out of it". I let my "mind rattle on" and I did not engage in the active dreaming process. Had I stepped into the flow of images, I think I might have assumed the "dreaming position" I am in when I sleep normally. This was a very weird sensation.
And when I started doubting the process (when I thought to myself, "oh, she's just a figment of my imagination"), I lost my viewpoint/the dream faded/I woke up. All of this is weird.
Notice that your expectations to meet a certain woman led you to meet his same woman.
Please expound on what you are suggesting, here? I am prepared to believe that the experience is strictly from my imagination, but I am wondering if she is, perhaps, "wisdom" from my psyche. I didn't get the sense that she was a spirit. But I still wonder if a deeper part of myself is alerting me that I can return to school.
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What do you make of the "it will be like water" answer?
Dreams may help one learn. Dreams are how most servants of God are called out.
For they may awaken and hear words, and speech, and wonder "Is that you LORD?" To which the most unexpected response is heard after a brief delay of YES.
When I was 12 I head a life altering dream. I being with eyes like fire appeared to me, amidst some spruce trees. He spoke to me strongly. He had feet and legs unlike any man I had seen, with wings too.
Not believing the dreams, and being terrified that this could be Satan, I sought the help of many. I was not religious before this, and what he spoke of scared me after I woke up. I had seen much harm in all religions that surrounded me, and I did not believe in their gods, for I thought there must be a better way, and it bothered me that they did not all agree. For surely the God would be one they would all agree upon. I remember thinking he might be hidden for the reason of their contention.
I suffered greatly for following the poor advice of a few men that said it was but a dream. I listened to a foolish sinful priest that said in essence that I was crazy.
For throughout my life I had precognitive dreams to prepare me. There were many odd events I could not explain. Oh, but by the modern ways of men, that can not even make or explain dreams on the level of God, this must be crazy. Woe to men, and their foolish ways. For they are as blind men that say they see all, yet knowingly they have not gone into the basement of their faultering home.
I did not speak or write like this before. This only began after something within me was unsealed, within my very soul. I know suffering and the cost of faith, when all seem to deny you, even yourself. Yet, I look up and see the Sun, and know I am not alone. For the rain and the winds are controlled by his will. But a wonderful dream it is now, by analogy.
Knowing that no man can explain why the Sun does fire, and provide light, and why the planetary bodies do turn. I find comfort with my foolish ideas, among the wisdom of fools.
So I encourage that if I was an ant, and one from above did send me a dream, I would definitely consider and seek to understand the dream. I would consider the dream with honest consideration of the direction. I would seek to consider and test the ways of the good that may grow from such an understanding.
Thus, I in your shoes would not seek out another ant for understanding of a dream given from above, for if it was meant for the other ants to give me such information, they would have spoken directly to me. Thus, in this way I respect the most high.
Dreams are about the only "true" ways to learn.. He/She who disregards his/her dream visions is the greatest "fool".. No doctrines... No theories.. Merely pure spirit revealing itself... The kingdom is spread upon the earth and yet those with eyes do not see it... Try killing yourself for a few minutes and leaving your body ie NDE else OBE... Maybe you'll learn something of truly significant importance.
Dreams are about the only "true" ways to learn.. He/She who disregards his/her dream visions is the greatest "fool".. No doctrines... No theories.. Merely pure spirit revealing itself... The kingdom is spread upon the earth and yet those with eyes do not see it... Try killing yourself for a few minutes and leaving your body ie NDE else OBE... Maybe you'll learn something of truly significant importance.
I was hoping to hear from you, Shamanmystic. It's a great coincidence that you posted your remark today - I just filled out financial aid forms for college. I am going to go back - at least I'm going to try. I hope I can somehow turn my experiences into a major essay, maybe a book.
I just have one question - what exactly do you mean by "try killing yourself....."? I'm sure you are referring to to knowledge and understanding you've gained from your experience?
If you are inclined, please share your beliefs on what lucid dreaming is. Please feel free to include references - I've learned a lot from you from past posts. thanks
Dreams are about the only "true" ways to learn.. He/She who disregards his/her dream visions is the greatest "fool".. No doctrines... No theories.. Merely pure spirit revealing itself... The kingdom is spread upon the earth and yet those with eyes do not see it... Try killing yourself for a few minutes and leaving your body ie NDE else OBE... Maybe you'll learn something of truly significant importance.
I was hoping to hear from you, Shamanmystic. It's a great coincidence that you posted your remark today - I just filled out financial aid forms for college. I am going to go back - at least I'm going to try. I hope I can somehow turn my experiences into a major essay, maybe a book.
I just have one question - what exactly do you mean by "try killing yourself....."? I'm sure you are referring to to knowledge and understanding you've gained from your experience?
If you are inclined, please share your beliefs on what lucid dreaming is. Please feel free to include references - I've learned a lot from you from past posts. thanks
When I speak of killing oneself I am referring of course to EGO DEATH. The way in which I experienced this was in a vision where I was ceremoniously torn apart by a band of sacred clowns . They hacked me into itty bitty pieces (atomic size) with machetes. Then a healer akin to asclepius appeared and took a small piece of what remained of me and blew it into my new body. The healer then chanted over me several times and pushed some sort of glowing crystal like object into the area of my heart. I then stood up and awoke. One might call it an intiation ritual of rebirth. Perhaps it was part of the monomyth? All I know is it drastically changed my outlook on life. I thereafter identify as a wounded healer and live out of something greater than myself.
Dreams are about the only "true" ways to learn.. He/She who disregards his/her dream visions is the greatest "fool".. No doctrines... No theories.. Merely pure spirit revealing itself... The kingdom is spread upon the earth and yet those with eyes do not see it... Try killing yourself for a few minutes and leaving your body ie NDE else OBE... Maybe you'll learn something of truly significant importance.
The bible is clear that you shouldn't trust dreams.
As for them being good ways to learn:-
Firefiies: "It's hard to say I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep, coz everthing is never as it seems"
Mad world: "I find it kinda funny I find it kinda sad it's the dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had... it's very very mad world".
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I understand them.
Last night I was with a women, I believed to be my ex girlfriend, but it wasn't my ex girl friend, no sex, I very rarely have sex in my dreams, actually I never do, either I appear on top of woman lucidly having no idea how I came to be there at all or who she is(rather bizarre should they ask me a question, as I'm like where am I) , or something starts then I dis-appear and wake up but it's always like I'm getting dragged away. Actually there was one dream I was with a women and she noticed that I was covered in all the robotic stuff, and she started to cry saying "What have they done to you?" and I woke up.
I've been eaten by lions, shoot, had my eyes pulled out, hands and feet chopped off, and often woken up not knowing if some part of me is still present, quiet a lot .
Every night for the last three years and three-four months, have gone through all maner of things, some times it's rather more disgusting than others.
I never remembered my dreams before and had them rarely, now every night I dream, often they appear to be some kind of experiment, designed to look at how I will react, they are very rational today my dreams, like they have been designed and written by someone.
Some are funny, some are cruel, in some there is this person trying to tear me to pieaces and destroy me entirely, I fight back save I don't disappear.
That is my condensed three and a half years of repeated dreaming, save to say, how long would it take to go through all of them?
Dreams are about the only "true" ways to learn.. He/She who disregards his/her dream visions is the greatest "fool".. No doctrines... No theories.. Merely pure spirit revealing itself... The kingdom is spread upon the earth and yet those with eyes do not see it... Try killing yourself for a few minutes and leaving your body ie NDE else OBE... Maybe you'll learn something of truly significant importance.
The bible is clear that you shouldn't trust dreams.
As for them being good ways to learn:-
Firefiies: "It's hard to say I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep, coz everthing is never as it seems"
Mad world: "I find it kinda funny I find it kinda sad it's the dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had... it's very very mad world".
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I understand them.
There's thousands of references to dreams. Guess you missed these. lol
And He said, “Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream” (Num. 12:6).
or maybe
“I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams” (Acts 2:17).
guess u missed this one as well. lol
“For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then He openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That He may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.” (Job 33:14- 18).
Guessu missed the points of those dreams as well mister I know it all. lol: (I dis-appear and wake up but it's always like I'm getting dragged away. Actually there was one dream I was with a women and she noticed that I was covered in all the robotic stuff, and she started to cry saying "What have they done to you?" and I woke up. )
Ever see star wars? I bet the woman was referring to you becoming robot like ie a machine rather than a man. Kinda like Darth vader. Just a mechanized version of life.