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7 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2008 - 3:30PM #1
monumental
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Hi there,
Can anyone give me advice on meditation, if that is possible. I do try and meditate, and i know your mind can wonder when trying. I clear my mind as much as possible. I do try meditations that are in the books and i really try hard to focus, but in the end all i end up doing is imagining going through it in my mind. I listen to music, i light candles , and then sometimes when i do get a feeling of something happening i get scared and open my eyes, is this a normal feeling, i guess not. Can anyone suggest anything. Thank you so much.

Love, light, and peace.

Monica
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2008 - 5:06PM #2
johndavid23
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mon,

Draw a mental circle around yourself, focusing on Here&Now, temporarily separating you from there&then.

There are breath exercises, called "nadi shodana", to cleanse subtler channels.

Relax your body thoroughly.  Let your mind focus on relaxing.

Then, there is the issue of "teacher", someone to guide you on inner planes, to show you the "guru-spirit" which, yes, is/was always there, but which you've temporarily forgotten.  Link up with it.
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 05, 2008 - 8:30AM #3
monumental
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[QUOTE=johndavid23;264179]mon,

Draw a mental circle around yourself, focusing on Here&Now, temporarily separating you from there&then.

There are breath exercises, called "nadi shodana", to cleanse subtler channels.

Relax your body thoroughly.  Let your mind focus on relaxing.

Then, there is the issue of "teacher", someone to guide you on inner planes, to show you the "guru-spirit" which, yes, is/was always there, but which you've temporarily forgotten.  Link u

Hi John
Thank you for helping, will put this into practise in my meditations.

Monica

Love, light and peace
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2008 - 10:51AM #4
spiritalk
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Meditation

The mind is the greatest tool or instrument that we have; it is unfortunate that most of us are not aware of the great potential of our minds. We use what is termed our conscious mind in our day to day living to communicate and interpret through five (5) senses (sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch) sometimes never realizing that we are using just a minute part of a greater force or energy.


Meditation is 'to think upon'. Training of the consciousness at many levels is the exercise to seek knowledge. Knowledge is the foundation upon which we build. Meditation will cultivate the understanding so that knowledge is absorbed by us and applied in our every day living.


Through the doors of meditation we learn to open the various levels of consciousness within; to understand the revelations behind each door and to apply them to all our experiences and to 'serve' those with whom we come in contact. We have the opportunity to take garnered knowledge on a personal basis, expand and refine it to our needs individually.


Meditation is a wondrous adventure, an important step in our spiritual awareness. As spirit here and now, everything in the universe is open to us, there is no limitation to what we can learn, only the limitations we impose upon ourselves. This is why contemplation and meditation are so important to us; we can unlock hidden, spiritual potential within our own being. There is only one (1) spiritual centre for each individual. There are many methods and purposes for meditation.


There should, of course, remain only one motive - "Service".
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2008 - 10:57AM #5
spiritalk
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The following meditation is to create your own private inner room at your own, personal, inner spiritual centre: Seat yourself comfortably in a chair, take a positive position, sitting upright, so that you will be as unconscious of your body as possible. At this stage take a couple of deep breaths to relax the body and put the mind at stillness. Remember we are not attempting to stop thoughts in the mind, but to refocus them to our visualization.

Close your eyes and use your inner forehead as a screen on which you are going to visualize your journey into peace. You are ready to raise your consciousness and create your own personal spiritual centre for you to use at any time.

Begin the journey by seeing a road or path. As this is your own journey it can be of any construction you desire...a dirt road, a paved road, a cement path, etc. As you travel your path, you can be barefoot to get the feel of all that surrounds you, or wearing walking shoes, whatever brings you comfort and peace on your journey.

We come to a gate at the side of the road and it seems to beckon us to examine what it behind the walls. Again, individual visualizations may vary according to your own choosing.

You enter a wonderful garden, where the grass is green and lush, the flowers are laid out in a profusion of color, and there is a little stream running through bringing the sounds, smells and feel of dampness to the environment. Birds sing, insects fly by, the butterflies and bees land on the flowers for nourishment and pollination.

You take your time to take in all the surroundings and to feel deep into your soul the peace that nature supplies. When you are ready, move on to the next step in your journey.

There is a bridge across the little stream and a small patch on the other side with a bench. You rest awhile and invite anyone you wish to commune with in this peaceful surroundings to join you (it can be a friend, or a family member or someone you know of who could do with the healing of peace).

This area of inviting a friend will be available to you time and again without entering into the center of your spiritual journey every time.

When ready, you move into the next step of the journey. There is a hedge along the side of your garden and you see a hole in the hedge inviting you to explore what is beyond this peaceful place.

As you peek through, you find your path leads through a dense forest of trees. They are so tall you cannot see the tops and they cast your path into shadow and twilight, but you can see your path clearly to follow from the sun peeking through the leaves of every shade of green.

The trees seem to pass their patient strength into your being, empowering you with a patient fortitude you have not felt before. While the bark is rough, you feel compelled to touch and embrace this strength and ruggedness into your growth.


Looking forward along the path is a bright spot showing a sunny meadow beyond the forest. Walking along you come out into a meadow of lush, green grass filled with wild flowers of every hue and color.

As you walk through this lovely meadow, you come to a pool of clear, blue water beckoning with freshness and rejuvenation. The sun shining on the pool gives it a jewel like appearance. It is so inviting, you take off your clothes and enter for a swim.

When you have refreshed yourself and are ready to leave the pool, you find a robe (the color is of your own choosing) ready for you to don to continue your journey.

As you look along your path, you see it leading into a shaded area where there is a small cottage located (again, build this according to your own preferences) and you know you have found your special, spiritual center.

Walk up to the door, open it and enter, remembering to close the door after entering. Visualize a room in which you are going to fill full of and confine the mental qualities of discrimination, strength, the power to concentrate, and truth, for your future and continuous use.

You will find yourself standing in a small room; the walls are completely unadorned, the only piece of furniture in this room is a wooden chair placed in the centre. This is your personal room where you can withdraw to anytime you so desire.

We are ready to energize our room with the energy of colour, that will always be there when we need it, whether it be for personal use or to aid someone else. Sit comfortably in the chair in the centre of your room.

Visualize the colour Red. See it cover and be absorbed into every area of your room. The walls, floors, ceiling are just glowing with the colour red. Then follow this exercise with each color in turn: Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, and Violet.

Your room is now alive with colour, all blending in harmony with each other, all radiating their own special vibrations. Keep in mind, to draw all colours into itself to the White light. Your room is now energized.

Sit quietly for a few minutes to enjoy and feel uplifted by the energies you have created. Then think if there is someone you would like to commune with in your personal space or someone who you know needs a healing thought. Send out the thought that they come and visit you in your personal space.

Open the door and bid them enter (no one can enter unless you invite them), ask them to sit on your chair. You stand in front of them and taking their hands in yours, draw the energy to them to be used by your friend, where it can serve the most good.

When your communion or healing is complete, see your friend to the door with God's blessing. You can give healing to anyone in your room, but you must only invite them one at a time to enter, concentrate on them alone and bid them leave.

When you are completed and ready to leave your sanctuary, take another couple of minutes to send out Love energies to all humanity. Visualize the world as you would see it from space, project all the beautiful energies you have created and finish with the world slowly being enveloped in White, knowing this is God's Love and Peace being projected to the human race. Give thanks for this opportunity to express Love to All.

When you go through the door of your centre, lock it after you leave. You alone contain the key to this glorious experience.

Return as you came along the path until you come to the pool. Take off your robe and again bathe in the water, leaving behind all your accumulated energies for another time.

When ready, come out of the pool and don your every day clothes waiting on the pool's edge. Proceed down the path back to the meadow, back through the strength of the trees, again absorbing this vital energy as you pass through the hole in the hedge, back to your beautiful garden of sweet smells and sights. Leaving your garden behind, go out through the gate and return along the path to your every day consciousness and surroundings.

We need never energize our room again, for every time we help someone, regardless of how we do it, our room will keep re-energizing itself. So the more we serve others, the stronger the energy will become.

What a blessing!
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2008 - 5:58PM #6
monumental
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Hi Spiritalk

Thank you so much for the time you have taken to write to me, the kind words and the lovely meditation. I always say to my husband i go to my garden for peace, there is a stream and my rabbits, i can feel myself stroking them.  I will certainly do the meditation, i look forward in fact to doing it. Thank you again for the time you gave to me.

Love, light and peace.

Monica
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2008 - 4:15PM #7
iamgnostic1
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Spiritalk, I also thank you for the beautiful meditation. I will be trying this also.

Love and Light,
Gail
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2008 - 1:01PM #8
spiritalk
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It is our individual mind that is at work - we can change and make the scene compatible for ourselves.  Meditations are outlines - the practice is personal.
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 12, 2008 - 9:13PM #9
CLHazz
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Hi, I have tried off and on for I don't know how long to meditate, I always end up falling asleep. I can get pretty distracted when I do try. Can having a attention disability affect meditation, like ADD.? I haven't been formally diagnosed with a "label" but am curious. I've read articles. I find it hard to do a meditation when you are reading on how to do the meditation you want to try. Any thoughts on this?
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7 years ago  ::  Feb 16, 2008 - 6:30PM #10
kilgoretrout2006
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I'm really not very good at this (Meditation that is.) but for what it's worth, here's what works for me.

You need a practice that's simple and basic. Find a comfortable quiet place and sit. Sitting in the classic position; on the floor with your legs crossed, maybe in half lotus; is good because it helps you remain alert (Falling asleep is not at all unusual.) but any position; on the floor with your back against a wall, in a chair; is fine. Close your eyes and follow your breath. Maybe feel you lungs fill and empty, maybe notice the feeling as the air enters and exits your nostrils, maybe count your breaths from 1 to 10 and then back to 1, maybe just notice the inhalations and exhalations. The point here is to bring your mind into the present. Most of our thoughts are about either the past or the future. We want to put that aside and just live in the present moment for a while.

Relax. Don't tensely try to force your mind to do or not do something. Often people feel that if there are thoughts running through their mind, they're not meditating. This isn't true. There will always be thoughts running through your mind. It's simply the way your mind works. When thoughts arise, acknowledge them and let them go. Gently nudge your attention back to you breath.

Start out sitting for a short period of time; 10, 15, 20 minutes, whatever you feel you can do; and gradually increase it. Get a small kitchen timer and set it where you can see it. (It's okay if you have to peak.)

A couple things I think are important. First; don't expect any bells or whistles. Don't look for spirit guides or great spiritual experiences. This is a tough practical down-to-earth practice. If you do feel something strange, if you do get scared, acknowledge the feelings the way you would any thought and let them go. I think this sort of meditation can change your life but like most real change it's about slow deliberate progress.

Second; keep at it. Meditation is really really hard and it's difficult sometimes to make yourself sit once, much less every day. But daily practice is the key. Pick a time of day when it's quiet, when you feel rested and alert and when you have the time. If you miss a day, don't worry about it. If you miss a week or a month or a year (My life is full of sputters and false starts.) don't beat yourself up, just get back to it.

I wouldn't recommend using candles or music, a bare bones approach is what works best for me, but it's fine to experiment and try different things. Because everyone is different. The most important thing is to not get discouraged. This isn't either a sprint or a marathon; it's a different way of living and that always takes time.

Anyway, that's what works for me.
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