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11 years ago  ::  Nov 29, 2007 - 2:08PM #1
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Often enough when discussing Essene dietary laws I find myself
talking to a vegetarian. They naturally want to know how kashrut
applies to them. Do they have to observe this Sacred Law? Is vegetarianism
Biblical? My vegetarian friends will be interested to know that they
do and it is.

In Gan Eden (the Garden of Eden) Adam, Chava and the animals were
all in a state of perfect peace. The world was in a state of
perfection and unity. Animals and the first humans coexisted in the
peace of our Abba and Imma. In Genesis 1: 29-30 we find that Elohim originally
gave us only the fruits and vegetables that grew on the plants in
the Garden to eat.

"Then God said, "I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of
the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They
will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all
the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground-
everything that has breath of life in it-I give every green plant
for food."

This vegetarian, or Edenic, diet is the original diet for humans and
animals alike. So we were obviously created with the idea of
vegetarianism in mind. It was only after the Flood that humanity was
given permission to eat meat.

" The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the
earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves
along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given
into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for
you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you
everything." - Genesis 9: 2-3

Why the change? The earth had become a veritable disaster area. The
flood had killed off much plant and animal life, had probably made
farming extremely difficult, and had limited what was left of
humanity to the animals they took with them on the ark and the fish
in the waters. Elohim was making sure they would survive! Later
Elohim instituted His Law of Kashrut to further guide us not only in
good health, but obedience to Divine mandate. However, vegetarianism
continued to be highly regarded and is the highest ideal for humanity.

Many Biblical personages were vegetarian. Tradition tells us that
Ya'akov, the brother of Yeshua, Matityahu (Matthew) and Kepha (Peter) were
vegetarians. That is pretty good company to be in, I would say! The
Essene's of Qumran and Mt.Carmel (possibly the audience for which
the Good News according to Yochanan was written for, or written BY
those converted to the Essene Netzarim Edah) were also vegetarians.

Now I don't want my fellow vegetarian friends to get too prideful in
their choice of diets. It is an illusion to think that we are more
spiritually advanced simply by virtue of the fact that we eat only
vegetables. We can keep kosher and eat strictly vegetarian (yes the
Law of Kashrut applies to vegetarians as well) and still not have
the proper consciousness.

"Well, my food doesn't require me to kill anything.", the vegetarian
may say.

Though I agree that vegetarianism is the original ideal for humanity
and that it is the best method for controlling the tongue, if it
were simply a matter of not taking a life for sustenance we should
remember that vegetables have life too. If eating vegetarian made us
holy or more spiritually advanced, then the monkeys should be miles
ahead of us in wisdom, and they clearly aren't. The point is that
vegetarianism is completely Biblical and is the original diet for humanity. So
enjoy that veggie burger! But only after you offer thanks to our Heavenly Mother and Father.

Preparing, Offering and Sharing Food

Every facet of the Essene talmid's life should be centered
on the Divine. Each moment is an opportunity to bring our
consciousness to focus on transcendental matters. This is no less
true of eating. The preparation, serving and eating of food offered
to Elohim, especially in the association of other talmidim, is
extremely important to the devotional life of any believer and has
its roots in the ancient Essene community. Yeshua always ate
in the presence of His disciples and sometimes shared these meals
with those who were seeking the Truth. We are to be imitators of
Messiah and do the same. The Essene should strive for the
highest devotion in all activities, including eating. Even in the
preparation of our meals, our careful attention to detail and
cleanliness trains us in the servant mindset preparing us for the
Kingdom of Heaven. Not to mention it is a wonderful way for us to
serve each other as well.

The eating and cooking process may be essentially the same for
talmid and non-talmid alike, yet the consciousness in which it is
done is very different. Thanking our Abba and Imma for our daily food was one
of the things Yeshua included in His model prayer for us. Not to be
thankful or, not to offer it for blessing is to rob oneself
of a spiritual gain. It is tantamount to insult if we do not
recognize the Provider, but only our own hunger and desire.

Why act as if Elohim had no part in our provision? Anything we do that
is not done to honor Elohim and offered for blessing can only
serve to entangle us in the illusions of a fallen world and move us
further from the proper consciousness of Divine Presence. Not to
mention that food that is not offered feeds only the body.
However, food offered to Eyn Sof (the Eternal One) nourishes both
body and soul. This is why it is so important to offer
everything we eat and drink.

When we offer our food we consciously connect our need for
sustenance to Elohim who provides it. We show our gratitude for
Aba and Imma's gifts bestowed on us in love and devotion and Elohim
blesses it so that it will also serve as a method of keeping our
consciousness at the proper platform. Not to mention that those who
share our food also share in some measure the benefit of that

Can one come into contact with that which is blessed by Elohim,
touched by Divine Energy, and not be affected by it? Nothing
that Elohim blesses can be considered mundane or normal. To suggest
otherwise is to reveal an ignorance of the holiness of Elohim. The
food we eat that is offered is in a sense spiritualized.
Thus it becomes a vehicle for Divine "khaila"(power) which in turn has
the potential to spiritualize our consciousness.

"Why should I offer every meal or snack I have?" you may ask. "
God doesn't need food so what's the big deal?"

That is true.

Elohim doesn't need our food. It isn't your food that Elohim accepts
when it is offered for blessing. It is your devotion our Heavenly Father and Mother
desire-your love.

"Yeah, but God knows I love Him."

This is true as well. However, if we never vocalize it, if we never
demonstrate it we must ask ourselves if we truly understand the
action of love. Love for Elohim makes one want to offer their meal.
Food offered should be recognized as Elohims mercy. In mercy
and love the provide for us healthy, nourishing and spiritually
beneficial sustenance. And in our devotion and love we thank Elohim for

When you really think about it, what is not to be thankful for? How
many times have you sat down to a meal and without one thought of
offering your thanks just dug in? I know I have. Does this show we
are grateful for the blessings bestowed on us? No way! It
says we are ungrateful gluttons taking for granted the gifts from
our Creator. Any good Buddhist will tell you that to be mindful and
thankful for every bite they have is their duty and goal. And many
of them achieve that very well. Why can't those of us who follow the
Messiah, do the same?

" And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the
name of the Master Yeshua, giving thanks to Elohim the Father through
him." - Colossians 3: 17

By offering our food and giving thanks to Yahweh we demonstrate to
Him that we truly appreciate all of the blessings and gifts He has
bestowed on us, and that we look forward to every opportunity to
develop a consciousness of His Presence in our daily lives.
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11 years ago  ::  Dec 14, 2007 - 12:20PM #2
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When Jesus was asked, "tell me, please, why sayest thou, do not eat the flesh if animals….? "Jesus' beautiful answer to him was; "Behold this watermelon, the fruit of the earth" Jesus then broke open the watermelon and said: "See thou with thine own eyes the good fruit of the soil, the meat of man, and see thou the seed s within, count ye them, for one melon maketh a humdredfold and even more.

If thou sow this seed, ye do eat from the true God, for no blood was spilled, nay no pain nor outcry sis ye hear with thy ears or see with thine eyes. The true food of man is from the mother of the earth, for she brings forth perfect gifts unto the humble of the land. But ye seek what Satan giveth, the anguish, the death, and the blood of living souls taken by the sword. Know ye not, those who live by the sword are the ones who die by the same death? Go thine way then, and plant the seeds of the good fruit of life, and leave ye off from hurting the innocent creatures of God."

In a teaching to his disciples in Lection XXXII, verse 4, of The Gospel of the Hebrews, Jesus is completely clear about his opposition to killing and eating animals:

For of the fruits of the trees and the seeds of the herbs alone do I partake, and these are changed by the Spirit into my flesh and my blood. Of these alone and their like shall ye eat who believe in me, and are my disciples, for of these, in the Spirit, come to life and health and healing unto man.

In the same section, verse 9, Jesus explains the problem of the custom of flesh-eating with an understanding of the past and a prophecy for the future return to vegetarianism for the whole world:

Verily I say unto you, in the beginning, all creatures of God did find their sustenance in the herbs and the fruits of the earth alone, till the ignorance and the selfishness of man turned many of them from the use which God had given them, to that which was contrary to their original use, but even these shall yet return to their natural food, as it is written in the prophets (Isaiah), and their words shall not fail.

In Lection XXXVIII, verses 3, 4, and 6 of The Gospel of the
Hebrews, the spiritual meaning of the awareness and practice of the oneness with all of life is translated into Jesus" teachings of vegetarianism and noncruelty to animals and all of life; His words are consistent with the awareness one would expect from someone of Jesus' great spiritual stature:

3 God giveth the grains and the fruits of the eaeth for food; and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body.

4 The robber who breaketh into the house made by man is guilty, but they who break into the house made by God, even of the least of these are the greater sinners.(Parasites)

5 Wherefore I say unto all who desire to be my disciples, keep your hands from bloodshed and let no flesh meat enter your mouths, for God is just and bountiful, who ordaineth that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone.

6 And whatsoever ye do unto the least of these my children, ye do it unto me. For I am in them and they are in me, yea, I am in all creatures and all creatures are in me.(The light of LIFE) In all their joys I rejoice, in all their afflictions I am afflicted. Wherefore I say unto you: Be ye kind one to another, and to all the creatures of God.

While watching the news in the early nineties I saw Dr. C. Everett Koop, the Surgeon General of the United States at the time, giving a press conference on his Health Recommendation for the 1990’s. He clearly stated that the 10 leading causes of death in the US were dietary and directly caused by the consumption of animal products. Alarmed, the press asked him if he was recommending that everyone become vegetarian. He paused a minute as to probably be politically correct. Then he said that everyone should be aware that eating animal products is the cause of most of the disease. Then the press asked if the medical doctors have any training in nutrition. He admitted that they only have one 2-hour non- mandatory course in nutrition in all the years of their education, the press was even mite alarmed and asked what the doctors would all have to go back to school for further study.

We must become experts on ourselves. No one will care more about us than ourselves. Fortunately it only requires treating our bodies as a precious friend.
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10 years ago  ::  May 25, 2008 - 7:09AM #3
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pila if you can can you please convert the passage from hebrew bible lection into gosple lection. much thanks
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10 years ago  ::  May 25, 2008 - 1:09PM #4
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[QUOTE=pentwolf1014;522737]pila if you can can you please convert the passage from hebrew bible lection into gosple lection. much thanks[/QUOTE]

Once you Clean all the Death out of you, you can see this big ball of pure Light. This big ball of pure Light is the Holy Image of God.

If you go back to eating Death again God will come in your Holy Temple and take His Holy Image out, so you can't See it any more. (I know this because it happened to others and myself) The only way I could get the Light back, was to clean the Death out again.

Not only dose Death come from eating Blood, it also comes from eating too much processed foods.

Once you know what LIFE is it is easer to stay in the Holy Image of God. If you can stay in LIFE, God will sing his Praises to you 24/7 with his Holy Voice WITHIN your Holy Temple, even after that day, you are called to do his work in his Holy Kingdom.

I don't have a Religion, So I don't know what Hebrew Bible Lection is or what Gosple Lection is, OOOPs.

Religion is Man made.

LIFE is God made. I AM in the true Hands of GOD, God is my Father, I do His WILL on Mother Earth, I Give LIFE to ALL of God's Children that want it.
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10 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2008 - 6:10PM #5
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Aloha Red

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10 years ago  ::  Dec 16, 2008 - 11:23AM #6
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Prophet Jonah claimed that the cows were part of the reason why the city of Nineveh was saved (Jonah 4:11). Krishna also descended, in part, to protect the cows of Vrindavana from the demonic king Kamsa who had taken to animal abuse.  And so animals in general, and cows in particular, are sacred to God not only in Hinduism and Zoroastrianism but also in the prophetic Biblical tradition.

Killing a cow is like killing a man! - Isaiah 66:3

The Gospel of the Twelve is an apocryphal vegan Gospel.  Also, for more information visit
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11 years ago  ::  Nov 29, 2007 - 4:06PM #7
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Hello Essene  and welcome to this part of Beliefnet. As you may know Beliefnet is a multi-faith forum and not all of us may know the meaning of the words you are using. I wonder if you would be willing to explain the meaning of some of your words?

My very limited understanding of the laws of kashrut suggest that they address much more than just the preparation of food. Do you care to go into this in more detail?

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10 years ago  ::  Jun 13, 2008 - 4:15AM #8
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This is a very interesting conversation. I have recently removed mammal flesh from my diet and I do feel a significant difference in my spirit.  I rarely eat fowl only once every couple of weeks and may end up giving that up too.  I would like to hear more about this connection between removing the Death from our diet and the relation to spirit.  I know most of these comments are pretty old but if anyone is still around I would love to learn more.    red
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