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Switch to Forum Live View Ding! Colorado Single-Payer Health Care Will Be on the Ballot in 2016
2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 3:17PM #1
Stardove
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Ding! Colorado Single-Payer Health Care Will Be on the Ballot in 2016.

It's time for the people to vote on whether to join most of the rest of the economically-advanced countries of the world in providing health care as a right. Not as a complicated bureaucracy involving exchanges, Medicaid, Supreme Court decisions, large deductibles, subsidies, hard to navigate websites and incomprehensible insurance statements.

Colorado is about to become the first state to hold that vote.  Email I received just a few minutes ago sent to supporters of ColoradoCareYes, a group who created Initiative #20, a ballot initiative that will initiate single-payer health care in Colorado, states.

Well over 100,000 supporters from all over Colorado signed the petition to get ColoradoCare on the ballot, definitively eclipsing the 98,492 necessary signatures we need to succeed.  Thanks to the incredible work of nearly 600 volunteer petition carriers, ColoradoCare will make history when we deliver an ambulance full of petitions to the Colorado Secretary of State's office this Friday, October 23rd.


More at the link. Colorado seems to be ahead of other states in several matters.  I suppose all the marijuana money could pay for health care. $$$  Wink
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 3:37PM #2
MMarcoe
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 3:17PM, Stardove wrote:

Ding! Colorado Single-Payer Health Care Will Be on the Ballot in 2016.

It's time for the people to vote on whether to join most of the rest of the economically-advanced countries of the world in providing health care as a right. Not as a complicated bureaucracy involving exchanges, Medicaid, Supreme Court decisions, large deductibles, subsidies, hard to navigate websites and incomprehensible insurance statements.

Colorado is about to become the first state to hold that vote.  Email I received just a few minutes ago sent to supporters of ColoradoCareYes, a group who created Initiative #20, a ballot initiative that will initiate single-payer health care in Colorado, states.

Well over 100,000 supporters from all over Colorado signed the petition to get ColoradoCare on the ballot, definitively eclipsing the 98,492 necessary signatures we need to succeed.  Thanks to the incredible work of nearly 600 volunteer petition carriers, ColoradoCare will make history when we deliver an ambulance full of petitions to the Colorado Secretary of State's office this Friday, October 23rd.


More at the link. Colorado seems to be ahead of other states in several matters.  I suppose all the marijuana money could pay for health care. $$$  Wink



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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 3:47PM #3
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Just think about all the money they save from not needing pharmaceuticals.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 3:58PM #4
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 3:37PM, MMarcoe wrote:


It's about time those tokers made themselves useful.




LMAO


Curiously, the only other state to experiment (unsuccessfully) with single payer is pot-friendly Vermont.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 3:58PM #5
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Yeah.. VT tried this.  Good luck, but this is within the vision of the founding fathers.
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 4:08PM #6
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I looked at the description...looks like a fully fledged single payer plan, financed by payroll taxes.


The only thing that is not clear is whether it would coexist with private plans. It seems the taxes are levied on all coloradans and their employers...so there would be a strong incentive for employers to put their employees in the risk pool and save money on private insurance.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 4:09PM #7
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 3:58PM, TENAC wrote:

Yeah.. VT tried this. Good luck, but this is within the vision of the founding fathers.



Vermont's was very different...it did not levy premiums through payroll taxes.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 4:10PM #8
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 4:08PM, Jasr wrote:


I looked at the description...looks like a fully fledged single payer plan, financed by payroll taxes.


The only thing that is not clear is whether it would coexist with private plans. It seems the taxes are levied on all coloradans and their employers...so there would be a strong incentive for employers to put their employees in the risk pool and save money on private insurance.




Do they have a plan to weed out out-of-state freeloaders?

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 4:33PM #9
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 3:58PM, TENAC wrote:

Yeah.. VT tried this. Good luck, but this is within the vision of the founding fathers.



What are you saying? That the Colorado plan is within the vision of the founding fathers? If so, please expound.




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2 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2015 - 4:35PM #10
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Oct 22, 2015 -- 4:33PM, MMarcoe wrote:


Oct 22, 2015 -- 3:58PM, TENAC wrote:

Yeah.. VT tried this. Good luck, but this is within the vision of the founding fathers.



What are you saying? That the Colorado plan is within the vision of the founding fathers? If so, please expound.







It's a state specific plan...not a federal one.

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