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Switch to Forum Live View Americans Overwhelmingly Oppose Obama's Iran Deal
2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 9:50AM #1
JRoadrunner
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In a recent Quinnipiac poll the deal’s total level of support is 25%. That’s a very low number in the polling business.

Opposition to the deal among independent voters is 59%, with 52% of women opposed.


Asked if the deal would make the world safer or less safe, 56% said less safe, and that includes 54% of women and 49% of college graduates. Its support is below 30% in every age category. A plurality of black voters say it makes the world less safe.


www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinn...


The very recent Pew Poll (9/9) just out has support at 21%, a 12-point drop since July. Public support for the nuclear deal with Iran has dropped sharply from 33% to just 21% in two months’ time, according to a poll published yesterday by the Pew Research Center.


In mid-July, a week after President Obama announced the deal, 33% of the public approved of the agreement, while 45% disapproved and 22% had no opinion. Over the past six weeks, the share approving of the agreement has fallen 12 percentage points (from 33% to 21%), while disapproval has held fairly steady (45% then, 49% now). Somewhat more express no opinion than did so in July (22% then, 30% now). …


While the partisan divide over the nuclear agreement remains substantial, support for the deal has slipped across the board since July. Currently, 42% of Democrats approve of the agreement, while 29% disapprove and an identical percentage has no opinion. In July, 50% of Democrats approved, 27% disapproved and 22% had no opinion.


Republican support for the agreement, already low, has dropped even further (from 13% to 6%). Independents’ support for the agreement also has fallen (from 31% to 20%), although – as with Democrats – the share disapproving has held steady since July, at 47%.



Polling continues to show that the nuclear agreement is highly unpopular with the American public. Last month, a CNN poll found that 56% of Americans want Congress to reject the deal, while a Quinnipiac University poll showed that voters in the swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida oppose the deal by a 2-1 margin.
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The continued growing opposition to the deal prompted Democratic pollster Mark Mellman to observe yesterday, “Whatever the question used, there is no doubt momentum is with opponents, as opposition to the deal has grown.”
 
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 10:35AM #2
rocketjsquirell
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The American people oppose the deal. 


The Congress opposes the deal.


the only ones who support the deal are the administration and the large multinational coroproations and arms dealers who will benefit from it.  

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 11:52AM #3
vra
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Sep 10, 2015 -- 10:35AM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


The American people oppose the deal. 


The Congress opposes the deal.


the only ones who support the deal are the administration and the large multinational coroproations and arms dealers who will benefit from it.  




I support the deal (reluctantly), and I'm not in the "administration" nor working for a "large multinational corporation".

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 2:09PM #4
Midutch
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Bummer that American public opinion means nothing to the rest of the world.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 2:16PM #5
Midutch
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Sep 10, 2015 -- 10:35AM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


The American people oppose the deal. 


The Congress opposes the deal.


the only ones who support the deal are the administration and the large multinational coroproations and arms dealers who will benefit from it.  



This is, of course, a willfully told falsehood.


They are NOT, repeat, NOT "the only ones".


The American people, congress, the administration, and even the large multinational "coroproations" and arms dealers (who are almost invariably right wing conservatives, BTW, see Cheney and Haliburton, et al) are NOT the world.


What the American people and Congress "oppose" is IRRELEVANT to most, if not all, of the rest of the world. Most, if not all, of the rest of the world really coudn't care less what you think.


Even if the United States refuses to ratify the agreement, it's implementation will probably still go through since the United States was merely one of many parties at the negotiations. 

"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 10, 2015 - 2:44PM #6
BDboy
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Sep 10, 2015 -- 2:16PM, Midutch wrote:


Sep 10, 2015 -- 10:35AM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


The American people oppose the deal. 


The Congress opposes the deal.


the only ones who support the deal are the administration and the large multinational coroproations and arms dealers who will benefit from it.  



This is, of course, a willfully told falsehood.


They are NOT, repeat, NOT "the only ones".


The American people, congress, the administration, and even the large multinational "coroproations" and arms dealers (who are almost invariably right wing conservatives, BTW, see Cheney and Haliburton, et al) are NOT the world.


What the American people and Congress "oppose" is IRRELEVANT to most, if not all, of the rest of the world. Most, if not all, of the rest of the world really coudn't care less what you think.


Even if the United States refuses to ratify the agreement, it's implementation will probably still go through since the United States was merely one of many parties at the negotiations. 





>>>>>>> Sure. More people are informed about the deal, they support it. Here is an example....



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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2015 - 10:42AM #7
JRoadrunner
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2015 - 1:44PM #8
Iwantamotto
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Where's all the peace constant war was supposed to bring?

Knock and the door shall open.  It's not my fault if you don't like the decor.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2015 - 2:44PM #9
rocketjsquirell
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Iwantamotto


Please ask that question of the supporters of the Iran deal.  The deal means constant war and no peace, ever.  

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2015 - 9:55AM #10
JRoadrunner
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Obama's response to this: "Don't confuse me with the facts." Or "I don't represent the will of the people but I'll do it anyway; after all, this is my America, not a democracy." "Official are elected to do whatever they want, not represent the will of the people."


Poll: Americans skeptical Iran will stick to nuclear deal


www.cnn.com/2015/09/13/politics/iran-nuc...



President Barack Obama's big policy win this week -- preventing Congress from blocking the nuclear agreement with Iran -- may do little to improve his sagging approval ratings.



A new CNN/ORC poll finds 59% disapprove of the way Obama is handling the U.S. relationship with Iran, and about half would have preferred Congress reject the deal. Few believe Iran will abide by its terms, and a growing number consider the country a serious threat to the U.S.


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Perceptions of threats from North Korea, Russia and Iran have all grown since April, but the biggest increase lies with Iran.


    Nearly half (49%) now say they consider Iran a "very serious" threat to the United States, up 10 points since April. That shift came across party lines with double-digit increases in the percentage viewing Iran as a very serious threat among both Democrats (up 14 points to 43%) and Republicans (up 15 points to 68%). Fewer see North Korea (37%) or Russia (30%) as a very serious threat, but both those figures have increased 5 points since April.


    READ: The complete CNN/ORC poll results


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