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2 years ago  ::  Sep 03, 2015 - 11:06PM #1
rabello
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Donald Trump Just Signed His Political Death Warrant



The GOP has finally muscled its maverick front-runner, Donald Trump, into submission. A Trump adviser said on Thursday the billionaire has agreed to sign the Republican “loyalty pledge” he famously refused at the first debate in Cleveland last month, apparently ruling out a scenario that utterly terrified the GOP establishment: that Trump would launch a third-party bid and almost certainly deny Republicans the White House. With the stroke of a pen, Trump will put these fears to rest—and immeasurably weaken his own standing. He’s probably signing his political death warrant. 




Let us hope so

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 03, 2015 - 11:09PM #2
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Third, by signing the Republican pledge, Trump invites everyone to judge him by that standard. But it's not a standard that favors him. Trump espouses all sorts of Republican apostasies, from supporting higher taxes on hedge fund managers to opposing cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Until now, his political image was that of someone larger than either party, who had some appealingly heterodox views. After today, he’ll be easier to attack as a Republican who won’t get with the program.


Finally, Trump seems not to understand the dynamics of the Republican primary process. The fact that he’s leading in the polls, while plainly gratifying to his ego, doesn’t mean very much. Anti-Trump sentiment among GOP voters is actually quite strong. The reason this isn’t more obvious is that it’s spread among the 16 other candidates (well, maybe 15—has science located a living, breathing Jim Gilmore supporter yet?). At some still-to-be-determined point in the future, when candidates begin dropping out and the field narrows, Trump’s 22 or 23 percent support will no longer be sufficient to put him in first place. 


At that point he’s stuck. He can’t broaden his appeal. He can’t run as an independent. And because he signed the Republican pledge, he’ll be expected to act like a good Republican and get behind the nominee. He can throw a tantrum, if he likes. But all that will do is cost him a speaking slot at the convention. Which, if you’re Reince Priebus, was part of the plan all along.





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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 7:13AM #3
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Trumps lead jumps to 30% after signing pledge.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 8:02AM #4
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The pledge isn't legally binding so it might be too soon to say he's killed his chances.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Ross Perot in the months before the election.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:08AM #5
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Sep 4, 2015 -- 8:02AM, jlb32168 wrote:


The pledge isn't legally binding so it might be too soon to say he's killed his chances.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Ross Perot in the months before the election.




That's never going to happen. He's made his decision, pushed his chips to the pot, all in.

Roses always come with thorns. Sometimes, thorns first, sometimes roses first, and, sometimes, thorns outside, roses inside, sometimes roses outside, thorns inside.

Someone who dreams of drinking wine at a cheerful banquet may wake up crying the next morning. Someone who dreams of crying may go off the next morning to enjoy the sport of the hunt. When we are in the midst of a dream, we do not know it's a dream. Sometimes we may even try to interpret our dreams while we are dreaming, but then we awake and realize it was a dream. Only after one is greatly awakened does one realize that it was all a great dream, while the fool thinks that he is awake and presumptuously aware. Chuang Tzu
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:09AM #6
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The Monmouth University Poll for Sept 2 shows Ben Carson and trump tied in Iowa.   Maybe Trump has  peaked  (www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Monmouth-Unive...)

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:38AM #7
looshawn
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Sep 3, 2015 -- 11:06PM, rabello wrote:


Donald Trump Just Signed His Political Death Warrant




That's funny.


He signed his name to something that isn't even legitamite and authorized, yet everybody is in awe.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:48AM #8
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Sep 4, 2015 -- 9:08AM, stardustpilgrim wrote:


Sep 4, 2015 -- 8:02AM, jlb32168 wrote:


The pledge isn't legally binding so it might be too soon to say he's killed his chances.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Ross Perot in the months before the election.




That's never going to happen. He's made his decision, pushed his chips to the pot, all in.




It could definitely happen. Trump wipes his backside with the rules of the game. He wipes his backside with reality. He will tear up this laughable, pathetic piece of paper the very next time he thinks he needs to boost his ratings.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:56AM #9
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Sep 4, 2015 -- 9:48AM, Jasr wrote:


Sep 4, 2015 -- 9:08AM, stardustpilgrim wrote:


Sep 4, 2015 -- 8:02AM, jlb32168 wrote:


The pledge isn't legally binding so it might be too soon to say he's killed his chances.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Ross Perot in the months before the election.




That's never going to happen. He's made his decision, pushed his chips to the pot, all in.




It could definitely happen. Trump wipes his backside with the rules of the game. He wipes his backside with reality. He will tear up this laughable, pathetic piece of paper the very next time he thinks he needs to boost his ratings.




The question is, does Trump really want to be President or does he want to keep being a reality show TV star?


He knows he can't be President as a third party candidate.

Roses always come with thorns. Sometimes, thorns first, sometimes roses first, and, sometimes, thorns outside, roses inside, sometimes roses outside, thorns inside.

Someone who dreams of drinking wine at a cheerful banquet may wake up crying the next morning. Someone who dreams of crying may go off the next morning to enjoy the sport of the hunt. When we are in the midst of a dream, we do not know it's a dream. Sometimes we may even try to interpret our dreams while we are dreaming, but then we awake and realize it was a dream. Only after one is greatly awakened does one realize that it was all a great dream, while the fool thinks that he is awake and presumptuously aware. Chuang Tzu
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 04, 2015 - 9:58AM #10
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Sep 4, 2015 -- 9:48AM, Jasr wrote:


Sep 4, 2015 -- 9:08AM, stardustpilgrim wrote:


Sep 4, 2015 -- 8:02AM, jlb32168 wrote:


The pledge isn't legally binding so it might be too soon to say he's killed his chances.  I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Ross Perot in the months before the election.




That's never going to happen. He's made his decision, pushed his chips to the pot, all in.




It could definitely happen. Trump wipes his backside with the rules of the game. He wipes his backside with reality. He will tear up this laughable, pathetic piece of paper the very next time he thinks he needs to boost his ratings.




It won't happen.


It will be a totally losing effort, and I'm sure Trump knows that.




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