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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 12:21PM #1
rocketjsquirell
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Of Turkey and Syria . . .  


Turkey mobilizes tanks, troops to Syrian border
Ankara warns Damascus that rules of engagement have changed following downing of jet

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Large numbers of Turkish troops — including at least 15 long-range artillery pieces and tanks – moved to the Syrian frontier from the eastern city of Diyarbakir.
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The mobilization followed statements by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan that the Turkish military will respond to any future violation of its border by Syrian military elements.

“As awe-inspiring as Turkey’s friendship is, Turkey’s wrath is equally awe-inspiring,” Erdogan told the Turkish parliament on Tuesday.

“The rules of engagement of the Turkish Armed Forces have changed,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan said. “Any military element that approaches the Turkish border from Syria posing a security risk and danger will be regarded as a threat and treated as a military target.”
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full article:
www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-mobilizes-t...

As much as I loathe the Syrian regime, and as much as I would like to see the current government of Syria just fold up and go away, I can't help but be a little concerned about Turkey's latest moves.  I sure hope this does not start a war between Turkey and Syria/Russia

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 2:16PM #2
Merope
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Well, I think this mobilization is in response to Syria's shooting down a Turkish plane last week.


The WaPo is reporting that NATO has condemned the shoot-down as "completely unacceptable" and issued a statement in solidarity with Turkey. 


That said, the WaPo also reports that NATO has not proposed any measures against Syria.  However, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen told reporters that NATO would closely monitor events along Turkey’s southeastern border and would gather to “discuss what else will be done” should another such incident occur.


“It is my clear expectation that the situation won’t continue to escalate,” Rasmussen said. “What we have seen is a completely unacceptable act, and I would expect Syria to take all necessary steps to avoid such events in the future.”


The WaPo also reports that Turkey views the shoot-down as deliberate.  Hence Turkey's changing of its rules of engagement along its southern border.  According to the WaPo, Turkey plans no immediate military retaliation for the downing of the jet. But it's putting Syria on notice that Syria can no longer operate along that border with impunity, thus potentially curbing Syria’s capacity to hunt down rebels active in the northern Syrian province of Idlib.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 10:26PM #3
Dostojevsky
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What a joke what a spin.


Is Turkey going to wag the NATO dog into into war or is NATO wagging Turkey? 


Russia and China not helping, another way must be found to oust Assad. Who cares for the international law and justice. You can always work around it...the end justifies the means.


Everyone knows - but nobody talks about - NATO's command and control center in Iskenderun, in Turkey's Hatay province, near the Syrian border, set up months ago to organize, train and weaponize what is known as the Free Syrian Army. Everyone knows Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the CIA are advising and weaponizing these Syrian NATO "rebels" with essential Turkish help in the logistics/safe haven front.


 

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 11:02PM #4
LeahOne
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"Everyone knows", Dos?   And just how does 'everyone know' that  - from PressTV?  Or 'Russia Today'?


I'm sure the Turks *forced* the peaceful government of Syria to shoot down their plane......

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 7:09AM #5
Dostojevsky
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If one thing does not work, try something else.


"On June 25, three days after a Turkish F-14 supersonic fighter-bomber was shot down over Syrian waters, Turkey announced that it was going to ask the military alliance to discuss its Article 5, which states that "an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all" and commits NATO allies to "assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force..."


"Activating the Article 5 mutual military assistance - in effect war - clause has been mentioned by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan at least twice since April, on the first occasion over two months before the downing of the Turkish warplane last week. "


This article was invoked at the attack on Iraq for which Turkey was major supporter. It appears Turkey was 'threatened' by Iraq then, and now by Syria. We the ignoramuses are supposed to overlook the small fact of the Pilot who on some strange impulse flew into the the Syrian air space. mmm did Pilot follow orders?


"The U.S. and NATO have been itching for a pretext to attack Syria, and Turkey, the only NATO member to border the country, has always been the pretext which would be employed to justify military action against the Arab nation.
Last Friday's incident and the NATO meeting following it signal the fourth act in a tragedy that the world community has precious little time to stop. "


globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&a...


 


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 11:46AM #6
LeahOne
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Dos, what is your reasoning for assuming that everything Russia/Iran/Syria governments do is good and right - and that whoever says differently is lying or 'subverted' or 'fooled'?


How is Turkey 'right' only when in conflict with Israel on an issue, and always 'wrong' when in conflict with Syria/Iran/Russia? 


Oh, and PressTV:  it's not a news outlet in the sense that anything in the so-hated 'West' is. 


In order to believe PU-TV, one has to believe there's a world-wide conspiracy to abuse pooooooor Muthah Russia and all her mighty client states.......

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 11:54AM #7
LeahOne
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One needs to realize that when the writer of an 'article' is an activist founder of an anti-NATO group, they are not reporting but editorializing.


There IS a difference, and it's a profound one.  Editorials are only 'secondary' sources:  they are only useful insofar as they may include facts.


The blurb cited by Dos contains speculation, invective, innuendo - but nothing approaching useful or relevant facts.


While 'Rick Rozoff feels NATO is a horrible organization' is indeed a 'fact':  it's not one which has any relevance to a factual discussion on the merits of NATO.


 

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 3:54PM #8
Mlyons619
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What does your writer think of Syria's excuse for shooting down the Turkish fighter.


"Gee, we thought it was Israeli."


Like that's some sort of a good excuse that Turkey should accept...

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 9:57PM #9
Dostojevsky
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Jun 27, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


What does your writer think of Syria's excuse for shooting down the Turkish fighter.


"Gee, we thought it was Israeli."


Like that's some sort of a good excuse that Turkey should accept...



Excuse is not needed. If Americans were awake 9/11 would not have happened.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 10:11PM #10
Dostojevsky
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Quote: 'The blurb cited by Dos contains speculation, invective, innuendo - but nothing approaching useful or relevant facts.'


I "quoted" what Putin said.  They are his facts with which I agree.


As for the rest, it matters not who said it. Many others have said what Putin said but they are not being heard and/or ignored. Russia is one voice representing many others.


 


 

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