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2 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 8:04PM #1
Druac
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I found this article interesting...I first found it on FoxNews.com:

From the study...it looks to me like most of the top "Most Corrupt" states are Red states and most of the "Least Corrupt" states are Blue states.

Top Corrupt States:


Michigan
North Dakota
South Carolina
Maine
Virginia
Wyoming
South Dakota
Georgia




Top Scorers (Least Corrupt)


Nebraska
California
Washington
Connecticut
New Jersey




247wallst.com/2012/03/22/americas-most-c...

Makes you wonder a little about the whole right's push for states rights and a weaker centeral government. :)

Then again, it could mean nothing....but still interesting.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 8:12PM #2
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Hello,



I found it interesting as well. Hoorah for NE. That was no surprise.



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2 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 8:20PM #3
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I wonder why fox would give an honest assessment?

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 11:13PM #4
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Ah yes ... yet "another" thread putting up suspect numbers put together by a Liberal Study to frame "Red States" to be bad, and Blue States to be good.


Problems I have with this ....


1) It ranks the existence of an "ethics agency" as part of the grade.  No suprise, ALL of the top five best get good grades on this aspect with the top ranked having a "A".


2) It is a "snap shot" in recent time.  Though I'll give it credit that it does mention the corrupt reputation of the "top spots".


Guess we can file this one right along with those other liberal studies that show Conservatives to be knuckle draggin, retarded, corrupt, hateful, bigoted degenerates.


But .. I guess if it makes you feel good about yourself ... so be it. [rolls eyes]

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 1:05PM #5
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The study is based on protection measures put into place that would prevent corruption. According to the link:


Surprisingly, most of the states that received high marks have big governments with long histories of corruption and political machinery. Connecticut and California fit this description. New Jersey, where it seems former and current officials are indicted every year on ethics charges, received the highest grade in the country. Despite its colorful political past and present, New Jersey received a perfect score in areas such as lobbying disclosure and internal auditing. According to the report, the reason states with historical problems with corruption now have high accountability scores is precisely because of their former offenses. Those past problems led to strict enforcement measures that have kept politicians honest and information readily available.


Many of the states with the worst corruption scores have not had the same public issues with corruption that trigger reform. These states, according to the report, are among the most sparsely populated in the country. Reporters sent to conduct research for the State Integrity Investigation found these smaller populations lead to a relaxed, “everybody-knows-everybody” attitude. This environment leads to a lack of reporting by elected officials, a look-the-other-way approach regarding campaign finance and lobbying, and an underfunding (or nonexistence) of political oversight groups.


So the blue states that scored high did so because they have a history of corruption that forced them to put protective measures in place; whereas, the states that scored worse havent yet had that issue and therefore haven't put protective measues in place.




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2 years ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 2:46PM #6
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Jun 21, 2012 -- 1:05PM, Girlchristian wrote:


So the blue states that scored high did so because they have a history of corruption that forced them to put protective measures in place; whereas, the states that scored worse havent yet had that issue and therefore haven't put protective measues in place.





That about sums it up. The presence of Maine and the Dakotas on the list makes the study immediately suspect.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2012 - 11:14AM #7
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Jun 20, 2012 -- 11:13PM, Bodean wrote:



Guess we can file this one right along with those other liberal studies that show Conservatives to be knuckle draggin, retarded, corrupt, hateful, bigoted degenerates.


But .. I guess if it makes you feel good about yourself ... so be it. [rolls eyes]




so you consider Fox and theWall Street Journal  to be liberal sites?

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2012 - 11:17AM #8
Cesmom
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Jun 20, 2012 -- 8:12PM, loveontheair wrote:


Hello,



I found it interesting as well. Hoorah for NE. That was no surprise.



love




I second that Hoorah!

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2012 - 4:37PM #9
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I see that Utah is not mentioned.   prolly in a class of it's own

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