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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 8:39PM #1
Mlyons619
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U.S. to Stop Deporting Some Illegal Immigrants

President Barack Obama said Friday that his administration would let many young illegal immigrants legally live and work in the U.S., sidestepping Congress after years of stalemate over the nation's immigration policy...




IOW, Obama plans NOT to enforce the LAW OF THE LAND.

Is this not HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS...?

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 8:46PM #2
Fodaoson
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Jun 15, 2012 -- 8:39PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


U.S. to Stop Deporting Some Illegal Immigrants

President Barack Obama said Friday that his administration would let many young illegal immigrants legally live and work in the U.S., sidestepping Congress after years of stalemate over the nation's immigration policy...




IOW, Obama plans NOT to enforce the LAW OF THE LAND.

Is this not HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS...?





No it I is the  exercise of Constitutional power under Article II. Sec. 2 “Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments


The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 8:57PM #3
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It is obviously  a political move, aimed at jumping the gun on Rubio, who is in favor of such a move,   but one that should have been taken  a long time ago.


We are not talking about  "illegals" that came into the country on their own. These were children that were just following their parents. What exactly are the legalities involved with this shouldn't even be a consideration.


 

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 9:14PM #4
Mlyons619
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Jun 15, 2012 -- 8:57PM, arielg wrote:


It is obviously  a political move...




Clearly.  It could very easily backfire on him...


Jun 15, 2012 -- 8:57PM, arielg wrote:


...What exactly are the legalities involved with this shouldn't even be a consideration...



Shouldn't it?


Gee, we can't separate the kids from the parents, eh?  That means we can't deport the parents, eh?


Plus, more incentive for those South of the border to drag their kids across the desert in hopes of MORE amnesty.


ENFORCE THE BORDERS

STOP ILLEGALS FROM ACCESSING TAXPAYER-FUNDED SOCIAL SERVICES

SANCTION EMPLOYERS WHO KNOWINGLY HIRE ILLEGALS


 


 





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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 9:17PM #5
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Sure it's a political move, but Fodaoson's right: the INS is strictly executive branch, and the executive doesn't need permission from himself to do this.


So I guess you red-meat eaters and manly types here want to kick out these thousands of people whose parents brought em here when they were babies, eh? Well, Goo to you.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 9:30PM #6
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Jun 15, 2012 -- 9:14PM, Mlyons619 wrote:



SANCTION EMPLOYERS WHO KNOWINGLY HIRE ILLEGALS


 


 



 




That won't happen if the Repubs get in, just like it didn't under Dubya.  If poor people sneak in here to get work then they should bear the brunt of getting caught, certainly not the sainted job creators who are happy to exploit a source of cheap labor.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 9:31PM #7
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I guess I wouldn't mind so much if you Vegan anti-border lace-panty sissies were willing to foot ALL the costs associated w/ illegal aliens, but since it has to be shouldered by ALL taxpayers, then:


ENFORCE THE BORDERS


STOP ILLEGALS FROM ACCESSING TAXPAYER-FUNDED SERVICES

SANCTION EMPLOYERS WHO KNOWINGLY HIRE ILLEGALS

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 10:44PM #8
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Lets close the border . Move the 3rd  ACR to Ft Huachuca AZ.  A brigade of the First Cav  to Ft. Bliss TX/NM,  A Big Red One Brigade to San Diego.   Create ICE/Border Patrol  Air Assault SWAT teams ,  Get Former East German Border ops plans, Put US Navy swift Boats/Coast guard  at Corpus Christi , Galveston TX, New Orleans, LA  Gulfport MS, Panama City, St Petersburg, Naples and Key west FL. Then we can watch the fruit, vegetable and other agriculture industries costs and prices  go up and up and production down and down.  




p.s. 


And btw, to your question ”Is this not HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS...? “ The answer is no; it is a constitutional  power of the President.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 10:49PM #9
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Let's open the borders.  Let's allow ALL employers to hire illegals at wages BELOW minimum wage (why else hire illegals over citizens?)  Let's allow illegals unlimited access to our public services.  Turn the US into another 3rd world shithole.


Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 15, 2012 - 10:53PM #10
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Jun 15, 2012 -- 10:44PM, Fodaoson wrote:


And btw, to your question ”Is this not HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS...? “ The answer is no; it is a constitutional  power of the President.




Bypassing Congress and enacting immigratopn laws by Executive Order IS bypassing Congress.

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