| 12 months ago :: Jun 12, 2012 - 9:52PM #21 | |
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You can not always get what you want. But, basic fairness should be something one can expect, especially from those who profess to value fairness. That is why anyone and everyone should be disappointed with the European press and with the European left. |
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 12:00AM #22 | |
Fairness and the true desire for it is a rare commodity. There are few here who won't exploit a one-sided news article, a video, or a website that makes the folks they don't like look bad whenever the opportunity arises, and justify it, too boot. Disclaimer: The opinions of this member are not primarily informed by western ethnocentric paradigms, stereotypes rooted in anti-Muslim/Islam hysteria, "Israel can do no wrong" intransigence, or the perceived need to protect the Judeo-Christian world from invading foreign religions and legal concepts. By expressing such views, no inherent attempt is being made to derail or hijack threads, but that may be the result. The result is not the responsibility of this member.![]()
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 1:56AM #23 | |
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In the days before political correctness in the original Hollywood version of the Knute Rockne story, with Ronald Reagan playing the Gipper, there was an often repeated joke. It went something like this. Question: What's the only thing dumber than a dumb Norwegian? Answer: Two smart Swedes. When I read the OP I couldn't help but recall old celluloid Knute and his joke about Norwegians. I suppose that the only difference is that then it was a joke and now we have proof. Habesor
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 3:43AM #24 | |
I've yet to see this so-called polls that is upsetting everybody. It has yet to be linked or otherwised referenced. Again, what exactly was being polled? How did the poll questions read? Was it a scientific poll and what was the sampling? For all we know it could have been a poll taken at the Annual Swedish and Norweigan Nazi Convention, that only polled attendees, and therefore does not represent the who;le of the population. I am not at all surprised, miraj, that you never got a response to your inquiries. This by the way is THIS particular poster's m.o...
"No freedom without education"
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 4:24AM #25 | |
Nahum, why can't it be that the realtionship is opinion based on fact? Unfortunately it is not in Germany and Norway alone. I watched our Datline on soccer violence in Poland and then in Ukraine. It was a shocking display of anti-jewish hatred. Where did those seeds of hatred come from? Information is shared in many ways and people are intelligent enough to make up their own mind and have an opinion re what is and what is not. In many EU countries this freedom has been supressed. Suppresing freedom of thought and speech is taking away man's humanity. It will burst out eventually and in not the best way. If I were a Jew living in any of these European countries, I'd ask as did Oprah on her show, why do they hate us?
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 10:25AM #26 | |
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 10:56AM #27 | |
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Speaking of Europeans and hypocrisy (can one do one without the other when it comes to Middle East discussions?) |
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 3:28PM #28 | |
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The poll was conducted by Forsa for Stern Magazine issue released May 23. Forsa conducts telephone surveys based on a sampling of at least 1000 people, according to Wiki. Haven't been able to find out the actual questions yet. One seems to be something along the lines of: Do you agree or disagree that Israel pursues its interests without consideration for other nations? Another: Do you agree or disagree that Germany owed a special obligation to the Israel due to the Holocaust? And: Do you agree or disagree that Israel has a right to exist? And: Should Germany recognize Pälestine? This is based on news articles (numerous) concerning the results. I can get Stern mag online, but can't read German. sample source: |
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 3:29PM #29 | |
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Learn about Norway - that beacon of Liberalism and Equality - not! Norwegian student in Oslo burns Jewish pupil 06/13/2012 16:15 According to the letter, "this child has been the subject of anti-Semitic bullying and violence for the past two years, reportedly, because his father is Israeli." In addition, the letter noted that "despite the mother's report of assaults on her son to NRK radio evening news in 2010, there has been no reaction by the school, the police or governmental authorities." . . . According to European reports, Norway’s school system has permitted an increasingly hostile climate for Jewish pupils. The Austrian paper Die Presse wrote in 2010 that "statements sharply critical of Israel" by Kristin Halvorsen, education minister of the Norwegian Socialist Left Party, have been "legitimizing attacks" against Jews. Critics say Jewish students have been subject to assaults in Norway's schools, and teachers have simply looked the other way full article: www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Art... Now do you nderstand what is behind the "polls"? Let me know if I can make it any clearer.
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| 12 months ago :: Jun 13, 2012 - 4:30PM #30 | |
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One seems to be something along the lines of: Do you agree or disagree that Israel pursues its interests without consideration for other nations? LOL! And can anyone think of a nation known for its consideration of other nations above its own interests???? Is that truly such a desireable thing???? |
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