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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 6:56PM #251
TENAC
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 6:19PM, amcolph wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 3:21PM, TENAC wrote:


 


It embodies the intentions and agenda of the LGBT.



Paranoid nonsense. 


I will assume since you will have no discussion to it, you must fully support the same.



I've offered you discussion on it and you have ignored me.


 




Am, generally I dont ignore you, unless its a really flippent post, but I would think you would rather those go ignored.  There are those (posters) I do ignore, but not mechanically as in clicking a button on here somewhere.  I see all the posts, many of them a waste of screen space.


A lot of times the board moves fast and things get buried.  I am more than happy to respond to any serious post you send my way.  I have seen no discussion on beyond marriage.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 7:12PM #252
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 5:54PM, Find1Answer wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 3:21PM, TENAC wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 3:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 2:05PM, TENAC wrote:


Tell us do you agree with the Beyond Marriage platform or not?


 




Are you still on about that?  It's not important, TENAC, nobody else cares about it one way or the other.




Sure.  No one wants to discuss it.  Why?


It embodies the intentions and agenda of the LGBT. 


I will assume since you will have no discussion to it, you must fully support the same.


And thats fine.  Its still a relatively free country.  But dont  attempt to tell me in a subsequent post that its only about marriage, or equal rights, or some such nonsense. 


Thats simply not true.




who cares if  beyond marriage is a LGBT agenda you go on about how there is only 2% of em anyway. and how many of the 2% even embrace that agenda.        You have more of a threat from Sharia Law.


but if you want to discuss it why don't you bring up some points.     I read where they wanted to define the family structure to whatever that family consists of.    like a caretaker person of unrelated  person like an alzheimer patient or someone dying of aids.      it will never happen I was caretaker of my own parents for 12 years not being able to work full time because my fulltime position was caretaker and I could not get a tax break not without stripping them of theirs.    beyond marriage wants to include any configuration not to destroy traditional marriage but to give protections to family units.    like insurance benefits and federal pension rights.       radical?     so what,   remember one of your arguments against ss marriage is that they are such a minority they don't count.




Oh no....its only about gay rights.  The right for homosexual persons to get married.  So we change the definition of marriage to stretch it over homosexual couples.


Now families.  Well, I suppose we have to change that definition now as well to include everything on the agenda of the LGBT ?   Ok.


Next, well the LGBT cannot get married in all churches.  Certainly thats discrimination, equal protection clause and all that......well, they shouldnt receive any govt benefit if they do not include all of the redefined population of the US.......


Teaching children in schools.  It is surely discrimination not to have curricula to include two mommies, two daddies, three mommies and two daddies, four daddies and a mom, etc.....


But wait!


Homosexuals only want to be able to get married.  Isnt that where we started?



Do you have any doubt there will be a hetero flight out of the public school system when the homosexual agenda comes into the classroom?


Perhaps you feel that such a flight is justified.  Good enough for the bigots, yes?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 7:39PM #253
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***I DO doubt this ...


Besides which I FULLY reject the Odd Notion of a "HomoSexual Agenda" ... THAT exists only in the frightened Imagination of some HomoPhobes and Folks who believe them ...


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 5:54PM, Find1Answer wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 3:21PM, TENAC wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 3:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 2:05PM, TENAC wrote:


Tell us do you agree with the Beyond Marriage platform or not?


 




Are you still on about that?  It's not important, TENAC, nobody else cares about it one way or the other.




Sure.  No one wants to discuss it.  Why?


It embodies the intentions and agenda of the LGBT. 


I will assume since you will have no discussion to it, you must fully support the same.


And thats fine.  Its still a relatively free country.  But dont  attempt to tell me in a subsequent post that its only about marriage, or equal rights, or some such nonsense. 


Thats simply not true.




who cares if  beyond marriage is a LGBT agenda you go on about how there is only 2% of em anyway. and how many of the 2% even embrace that agenda.        You have more of a threat from Sharia Law.


but if you want to discuss it why don't you bring up some points.     I read where they wanted to define the family structure to whatever that family consists of.    like a caretaker person of unrelated  person like an alzheimer patient or someone dying of aids.      it will never happen I was caretaker of my own parents for 12 years not being able to work full time because my fulltime position was caretaker and I could not get a tax break not without stripping them of theirs.    beyond marriage wants to include any configuration not to destroy traditional marriage but to give protections to family units.    like insurance benefits and federal pension rights.       radical?     so what,   remember one of your arguments against ss marriage is that they are such a minority they don't count.




Oh no....its only about gay rights.  The right for homosexual persons to get married.  So we change the definition of marriage to stretch it over homosexual couples.


Now families.  Well, I suppose we have to change that definition now as well to include everything on the agenda of the LGBT ?   Ok.


Next, well the LGBT cannot get married in all churches.  Certainly thats discrimination, equal protection clause and all that......well, they shouldnt receive any govt benefit if they do not include all of the redefined population of the US.......


Teaching children in schools.  It is surely discrimination not to have curricula to include two mommies, two daddies, three mommies and two daddies, four daddies and a mom, etc.....


But wait!


Homosexuals only want to be able to get married.  Isnt that where we started?



***Do you have any doubt there will be a hetero flight out of the public school system when the homosexual agenda comes into the classroom?


Perhaps you feel that such a flight is justified.  Good enough for the bigots, yes?





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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 8:39PM #254
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Are we going to have homosexuality presented as a normal lifestyle along side heterosexuality in the classroom? 



This is, IMO, evil.  There are kids out there right now, today, in school, whose have two same sex parents.  This #@#% wants to teach those kids that their families are broken, that these kids and their loving parents are abnormal.  Not only that, this "person" wants to teach their classmates that the kids and their families are abnormal. What kind of sick person wants to do that to kids?  It makes me feel sick to my stomach, the rotten stuff adults will do to kids in pursuit of their prejudices and bigotries.  Gag. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 8:42PM #255
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BTW, if you want to see the Christian Agenda, google Christian Identity.



Hey, if a fringe website can be used to discount gays, well, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:38PM #256
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


 


Teaching children in schools.  It is surely discrimination not to have curricula to include two mommies, two daddies, three mommies and two daddies, four daddies and a mom, etc.....



 


 


Seriously dude, where do you get this stuff from?


 



 


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


Do you have any doubt there will be a hetero flight out of the public school system when the homosexual agenda comes into the classroom?



 


Perhaps you feel that such a flight is justified.  Good enough for the bigots, yes?




 


I think the more relevant question is does anyone seriously believe that the heterosexuals will have to flee the public school systems?


 


And I hesitate to even say this because even answering the question seems to lend credibility to a silly idea, but "hetero flight" won't hurt the school systems. White flight hurt because it hurt the tax base of inner city schools.This supposed "hetero flight" to private or home schools will not hurt because these scared heteros will still be paying taxes.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:45PM #257
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 8:42PM, REteach wrote:


BTW, if you want to see the Christian Agenda, google Christian Identity.



Hey, if a fringe website can be used to discount gays, well, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. 




 


Christian Identity hell.Just google the regular churches in the South that want to fence in and starve the gays,or want the US government to do it's duty and kill them off. These ideas are not coming from  militia groups holed up in the mountains with guns and walkie talkies, but from your everyday churches.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:49PM #258
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:38PM, christzen wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


 


Teaching children in schools.  It is surely discrimination not to have curricula to include two mommies, two daddies, three mommies and two daddies, four daddies and a mom, etc.....



 


 


Seriously dude, where do you get this stuff from?


 



 


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


Do you have any doubt there will be a hetero flight out of the public school system when the homosexual agenda comes into the classroom?



 


Perhaps you feel that such a flight is justified.  Good enough for the bigots, yes?




 


I think the more relevant question is does anyone seriously believe that the heterosexuals will have to flee the public school systems?


 Have to flee schools?  No.  It will be of their own volition.


And I hesitate to even say this because even answering the question seems to lend credibility to a silly idea, but "hetero flight" won't hurt the school systems. White flight hurt because it hurt the tax base of inner city schools.This supposed "hetero flight" to private or home schools will not hurt because these scared heteros will still be paying taxes.


You have no idea what you are talking about here.  Instead of thinking you know everything, why not ask a question. 


Better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.





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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:54PM #259
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:38PM, christzen wrote:


.This supposed "hetero flight" to private or home schools will not hurt because these scared heteros will still be paying taxes.





They also vote Christzen ... and if enough of this Social Justice crap ends up in the schools, and they flee, they will vote to defund the public education system ... and end the political career of any politician standing in their way.  [gotta remember .. this is not just a bunch of wingos .. the Black Community, as strong democrat block, also opposes a gay agenda].


... and ... OH ..there is no Constitutional "right" of Schools to be funded by the tax payers.


Be carefull of what you wish for.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:55PM #260
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:49PM, TENAC wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:38PM, christzen wrote:


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


 


Teaching children in schools.  It is surely discrimination not to have curricula to include two mommies, two daddies, three mommies and two daddies, four daddies and a mom, etc.....



 


 


Seriously dude, where do you get this stuff from?


 



 


Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:12PM, TENAC wrote:


Do you have any doubt there will be a hetero flight out of the public school system when the homosexual agenda comes into the classroom?



 


Perhaps you feel that such a flight is justified.  Good enough for the bigots, yes?




 


I think the more relevant question is does anyone seriously believe that the heterosexuals will have to flee the public school systems?


 Have to flee schools?  No.  It will be of their own volition.


And I hesitate to even say this because even answering the question seems to lend credibility to a silly idea, but "hetero flight" won't hurt the school systems. White flight hurt because it hurt the tax base of inner city schools.This supposed "hetero flight" to private or home schools will not hurt because these scared heteros will still be paying taxes.


You have no idea what you are talking about here.  Instead of thinking you know everything, why not ask a question. 


Better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.








 


I've never claimed to know everything, but you certainly have not posted anything to disprove what I said. Heteros will not flee the school system, this is a fantasy on your part. And as I said,even if your wild imaginings come true, they STILL pay the taxes to support the public school system.

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