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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 11:31AM #1
ted08721
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Something the world has known for a long time but some have refused to recognise especially in the U.S.

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 2:07PM #2
LeahOne
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Being part of some kind of 'UN Committee' doesn't confer immunity from prejudice or bias - nor does it guaranteee fairness nor good judgement.


I'm distinctly UNDER-impressed with any person who claims to know what 'the world' thinks.  Same for any individual who confers upon their own opinions the honor of 'fact'- and then proceeds to excoriate everyone who doesn't agree as 'blind', 'brainwashed', etc, etc ad nauseam ad infinitum.


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 2:44PM #3
rangerken
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The best thing we Americans should do is to pretty much ignore the UN, and seriously consider cutting the funding we provide to it. After all, the wonerful way the UN helped the Bosnians, the Rwandans, the Lyubians, and now the Syrians isn't exactly a cause for confidence, now is it?


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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 2:54PM #4
Miraj
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Silly, UN.  They don't know what they're doing.  We can ignore all the UN resolutions supporting Israel, too, then, starting with the partition of Palestine.  

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 3:06PM #5
rangerken
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May 28, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Miraj wrote:


Silly, UN.  They don't know what they're doing.  We can ignore all the UN resolutions supporting Israel, too, then, starting with the partition of Palestine.  




 


I agree. Israel exists NOT because of the UN today but inspite of it.


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PS. and I suspect that's not what the quoted post meant...LOL...but I couldn't resist Cool

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 3:36PM #6
LeahOne
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?"


(and yes, that's intended as a sort of double entendre.....)

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 3:38PM #7
Miraj
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May 28, 2012 -- 3:36PM, LeahOne wrote:


"Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?"


(and yes, that's intended as a sort of double entendre.....)




Hopefully, we do.

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 3:55PM #8
rangerken
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May 28, 2012 -- 3:38PM, Miraj wrote:


May 28, 2012 -- 3:36PM, LeahOne wrote:


"Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?"


(and yes, that's intended as a sort of double entendre.....)




Hopefully, we do.




I agree with both posts!!!!!


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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 6:12PM #9
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We can watch the insanity at the UN but we can not do much about it, nor can we do much to stem the lies, distortions, and hate which spew from that organization. Nor can we stop those who wish to believe the lies, distortions and hate from doing so, they are willing accomplices.  


Any statement from the UN must be taken with more than a grain of salt. The UN makes Fox News look like an impartial arbiter of facts. 


You might find this interesting reading, as it helps explain the idiocy of the UN:



28 May 2012 10:09 PM
Zionism and bigotry

In the wake of the festival of Shavuot, when Jews have been celebrating the giving of the Ten Commandments to Moses on Mount Sinai from where he presented them to the Jewish people camped at its foot, I have been brooding over the fact that Zionism has become a dirty word in Britain and the west.

For many in these societies, Zionism has now become equated with racism. This group libel, once regarded with revulsion by decent people when the Soviet-Arab axis got the UN to endorse it in 1975, has now become the prism through which the BBC, academia, the artistic and theatrical world and much of the rest of the cultural establishment now frame all references to Israel.
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This is as grotesque as it is terrifying. Zionism is no more nor less than the self-determination of the Jewish people -- as a people, and not just as adherents of the Jewish religion. Jews are in fact the only people – as a people -- for whom Israel (ancient Judea and Samaria) was ever their national homeland. Those who deny Zionism thus deny Jewish peoplehood and the fundamental right of Jews to live as a people in their own ancestral homeland, Israel.

Unique in the world, Jews are both a people and adherents of a religion. Intrinsic to and inseparable from the religion of Judaism is the land of Israel; more specifically, the centrality of and longing for Jerusalem and its Temple. Deny that centrality and you rip the heart and soul out of Judaism. Those who deny the right of the Jews to Israel and Jerusalem deny the right of the Jews to their own religion.

Judaism is like a stool supported on three legs – the nation, the religion and the land. Saw off any of these legs and the stool collapses. Does this mean that all Jews are Zionists? Of course not, no more than it means that all Jews are religious. But just as the hatred of Jews on theological grounds has always threatened the lives and safety of all Jews including those who are not religious, so the anti-Zionist hatred of Jewish self-determination is a form of bigotry which threatens the lives and safety of all Jews, whether or not they are Zionists.
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The anti-Zionist madness of our time is thus far more pernicious even than hatred of Israel, pathologically obsessive and malevolent as that is in itself. Bad enough that for so many people in Britain and the west, Israel has been successfully demonised as a pariah state on the basis of a unique systematic campaign of falsehoods, distortions and libels about its history and behaviour, untruths which have nevertheless become the unchallenged basis for public discussion.

But far worse even than this is the assumption underlying this lazy defamation, that Zionism is a creed that is itself a particularly aggressive kind of racism or colonialism. This vicious prejudice has turned truth, reason and decency inside out. The right of the Jews to their own historic national homeland has been recast, entirely falsely, as a usurpation of the ‘right’ to that land of ‘Palestinians’ – who never actually existed as a discrete people in the first place. Those Jews who are Zionists now find themselves as a result cast as racists and social pariahs – merely for asserting the right of the Jewish people to self-determination in their own historic homeland.
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This is a truly chilling situation, reminiscent of the mass brainwashing and hijacking of thought that took place in the Soviet Union – not surprising when you consider the Soviet-Arab axis that back in the seventies set out to destroy Israel by capturing and subverting the western mind. In practical terms, it means that by definition it is not possible to persuade people what has actually occurred and what the true facts are, since such propositions will be dismissed out of hand -- on the basis that everyone knows that the lies about Israel are actually the unchallengeable truth.
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full article:
phillipsblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/05/zio...

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 6:46PM #10
LeahOne
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I did feel that the word 'concludes' must have been a misstatement:  I am confident that the members of this committee **began** their 'investigation' with the purported 'conclusion' already firmly wedged into their minds.

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