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13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 11:04AM #21
mecdukebec
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May 31, 2012 -- 10:52AM, loveontheair wrote:


May 31, 2012 -- 10:39AM, mecdukebec wrote:


May 31, 2012 -- 10:33AM, loveontheair wrote:


May 30, 2012 -- 7:13PM, mecdukebec wrote:


May 28, 2012 -- 10:41PM, loveontheair wrote:


Hello,



In response to Mec...


As I have said before I personally know of 5 suicides. 3 of which were from Iraq and Afghanistan, one of which was my best friend. Been there done that and you're not the only one.



 




I find your response bizarre.  I am sorry for your loss; but that being said, I see no reason to brag.  I wasn't.  "Suffering doesn't enoble you.  It's what you do with it that counts."





Hello,



You can take it any way you want. I find your response bizarre because it seems to me you took it wrong. In many of your posts you make it appear that your the only one who has lost a friend, a loved-one or someone who has PTSD. I was simply reminding everyone that you're not the only one.



love




Tone is everything, esp. on the Net. 


As to whatever you claim about me, I've never made assertions that "I'm the only one."


Again, my condolences in re: your grief.  May your friends' memories rest with the Lord. 





Hello,



I understand. May your friends rest as well.


I was addressing two things in my post. 1) many of your comments are snear. 2) Ken's narcissism.


Having said that and receiving your last comment I would have asked you the same QQ in the Motorpool. Many times your comments are rather snear, if that's a word. Thank you for your last comment. I know you are grieving as well.



love





I have no idea what "are snear" means.   "May they find rest."

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13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 2:33PM #22
johndavid23
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Some people believe that if you are not a cheerleader for the warmongers you are sneering at the war machine.  They must enjoy watching it grind up human lives.

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13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 9:07PM #23
rangerken
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May 31, 2012 -- 2:33PM, johndavid23 wrote:


Some people believe that if you are not a cheerleader for the warmongers you are sneering at the war machine.  They must enjoy watching it grind up human lives.




There's nothing wrong with sneering at 'the war machine'. There's nothing wrong with saying the war mongers enjoy watching it grind up human lives. Since those I know who have experienced war (like my son and wife and me, etc) dislike war much more than those who have never experienced it, I share your sentiments.


Just be sure, be very, very sure, to NOT include those who fight our country's wars, in accordance with their oaths, and as the elected, civilian government decides, with whoever those 'war mongers' happen to be. I don't recall having ever commanded any 'war mongers'. My son doesn't recall having served with or led any when he was in Afghanistan.


Ken

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 2:51AM #24
Dostojevsky
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May 27, 2012 -- 10:18PM, ted08721 wrote:


Memorial Day is not actually a day to pray for U.S. troops who died in action but rather a day set aside by Congress to pray for peace. The 1950 Joint Resolution of Congress which created Memorial Day says: "Requesting the President to issue a proclamation designating May 30, Memorial Day, as a day for a Nation-wide prayer for peace." (64 Stat.158).




Who is going to win here?


Can the Lord bring peace to earth against the will of the people who prayed?

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 8:56AM #25
LeahOne
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 2:51AM, Dostojevsky wrote:


May 27, 2012 -- 10:18PM, ted08721 wrote:


Memorial Day is not actually a day to pray for U.S. troops who died in action but rather a day set aside by Congress to pray for peace. The 1950 Joint Resolution of Congress which created Memorial Day says: "Requesting the President to issue a proclamation designating May 30, Memorial Day, as a day for a Nation-wide prayer for peace." (64 Stat.158).




Who is going to win here?


Can the Lord bring peace to earth against the will of the people who prayed?





Since the OP 'statement' is factually in gross error and thus meaningless drivel, questions about the drivel are pretty well moot.  'Memorial Day' didn't spring full-blown from Congress in 1950, but is simply a new title for what had already been 'Decoration Day' (of veterans' graves) after the Civil War.   A Resolution of Congress may be a 'legal' thing - but its value doesn't hold a candle to the meaning of several generations' tradition (North AND South, yes!) for ordinary Americans across the country....


It used to be the custom for a family to go out to the graveyard at least once a year and tend to the graves of family and friends.  The weather is usually nice on Memorial Day - it's a great time for a picnic!  And back before the 20th C, large urban cemetaries were used more like public parks - no ball games, but people strolling the walks and families picnicking.  Some families will go there to remember a birthday of a deceased loved one, particularly a child or a victim of 'premature' death.


I expect if we were to go by our Civil War veteran's grave in Nebraska now, it might well be decorated if anyone realized he was a veteran - even though none of the family has lived there for well over a century now.  In some smaller towns, the 'ladies' of the congregation tidy up and decorate the churchyard as a community project.  And families who no longer live in the area, like our late Uncle Frank's, send donations to the church fund to help maintain the graveyard.  Here is a page for one such 'inactive' churchyard:  www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=c...

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 10:54AM #26
johndavid23
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May 31, 2012 -- 9:07PM, rangerken wrote:


May 31, 2012 -- 2:33PM, johndavid23 wrote:


Some people believe that if you are not a cheerleader for the warmongers you are sneering at the war machine.  They must enjoy watching it grind up human lives.




There's nothing wrong with sneering at 'the war machine'. There's nothing wrong with saying the war mongers enjoy watching it grind up human lives. Since those I know who have experienced war (like my son and wife and me, etc) dislike war much more than those who have never experienced it, I share your sentiments.


Just be sure, be very, very sure, to NOT include those who fight our country's wars, in accordance with their oaths, and as the elected, civilian government decides, with whoever those 'war mongers' happen to be. I don't recall having ever commanded any 'war mongers'. My son doesn't recall having served with or led any when he was in Afghanistan.


Ken




Of course not ken: those soldiers are merely the servants/slaves/enablers of the "war-mongers".  That they do it by choice indicates that they enjoy what they have chosen to do; otherwise they are seriously masochistic.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 3:30PM #27
ted08721
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 10:54AM, johndavid23 wrote:


May 31, 2012 -- 9:07PM, rangerken wrote:


May 31, 2012 -- 2:33PM, johndavid23 wrote:


Some people believe that if you are not a cheerleader for the warmongers you are sneering at the war machine.  They must enjoy watching it grind up human lives.




There's nothing wrong with sneering at 'the war machine'. There's nothing wrong with saying the war mongers enjoy watching it grind up human lives. Since those I know who have experienced war (like my son and wife and me, etc) dislike war much more than those who have never experienced it, I share your sentiments.


Just be sure, be very, very sure, to NOT include those who fight our country's wars, in accordance with their oaths, and as the elected, civilian government decides, with whoever those 'war mongers' happen to be. I don't recall having ever commanded any 'war mongers'. My son doesn't recall having served with or led any when he was in Afghanistan.


Ken




Of course not ken: those soldiers are merely the servants/slaves/enablers of the "war-mongers".  That they do it by choice indicates that they enjoy what they have chosen to do; otherwise they are seriously masochistic.





A soldier always has a choice to do the right thing

www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mccarthy3.html

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:44PM #28
Dostojevsky
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 8:56AM, LeahOne wrote:


Jun 1, 2012 -- 2:51AM, Dostojevsky wrote:


May 27, 2012 -- 10:18PM, ted08721 wrote:


Memorial Day is not actually a day to pray for U.S. troops who died in action but rather a day set aside by Congress to pray for peace. The 1950 Joint Resolution of Congress which created Memorial Day says: "Requesting the President to issue a proclamation designating May 30, Memorial Day, as a day for a Nation-wide prayer for peace." (64 Stat.158).




Who is going to win here?


Can the Lord bring peace to earth against the will of the people who prayed?





Since the OP 'statement' is factually in gross error and thus meaningless drivel, questions about the drivel are pretty well moot.  'Memorial Day' didn't spring full-blown from Congress in 1950, .....




Memorial day or any other day, the question stands.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 9:11AM #29
LeahOne
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Dos, ever heard of Mark Twain?  A little reading for you:


classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/m... 


 


I consider this thread AND this forum to be the wrong location for your question:  I wasn't taking issue with your question itself.   If you can figure out where to place it, I think it's worth discussing.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 04, 2012 - 1:52AM #30
Dostojevsky
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Jun 3, 2012 -- 9:11AM, LeahOne wrote:


Dos, ever heard of Mark Twain?  A little reading for you:


classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/m... 


 


I consider this thread AND this forum to be the wrong location for your question:  I wasn't taking issue with your question itself.   If you can figure out where to place it, I think it's worth discussing.





Mark who?

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