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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 1:18PM #51
Ed.W
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May 25, 2012 -- 6:26PM, Unworthyone wrote:


May 25, 2012 -- 6:09PM, Ed.W wrote:


One reason healthcare is so expensive now is that we already have exactly what you want:  Universal health care.


Hospitals will not turn anyone away for lack of the ability to pay (it's been the law for a while).  That's why I cancelled my own coverage.  WTF.  My premium goes up 15% every friggin year while the those without insurance just waltz into hospitals and get the EXACT same care I pay for?  Who's the idiot here.


When I get sick next time you guys with policies are paying for it.





Eventually, we're going to put a stop to people gaming the system.  We wanted to do this in 2010, but the Republicans would not have it.  Everyone knows eventually we will all need healthcare, so it only makes sense that we all start paying our fair share right up front.




This was exactly the Obama rationale for mandatory coverage.  Since people get the healthcare anyway whether they are covered or not, they may as well be forced to pay for it. 


I agree with that, but I don't think mandatory coverage is the answer to the problem.

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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 2:32PM #52
Jasr
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May 29, 2012 -- 1:18PM, Ed.W wrote:


This was exactly the Obama rationale for mandatory coverage.  Since people get the healthcare anyway whether they are covered or not, they may as well be forced to pay for it. 




to be fair, Obama did not come up with this rationale; it was in plan back when the Heritage Foundation originally proposed it.


And it was a sop to the private insurance lobby...if they were going to be deprived of the ability to cherry pick healthy patients and profit from them while leaving the expensive, uninsurable patients to the taxpayers and to robin-hooding not for profit providers, they darn well wanted to prevent the healthy profitable patients from leaving the risk pool.


May 29, 2012 -- 1:18PM, Ed.W wrote:


I agree with that, but I don't think mandatory coverage is the answer to the problem.





All right then...what is?


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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 2:45PM #53
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Heck of a lot better then getting our troops killed in unnecessary wars.


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