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2 years ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 4:48PM #1
KindredSai
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www.news24.com/Africa/News/US-hails-Alge...

A fear that Islamists will seize power in the Arab Spring is not the case in Algeria. 
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2 years ago  ::  May 14, 2012 - 5:14PM #2
rocketjsquirell
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and then there is this

Algerian Election Results Draw Disbelief
By ADAM NOSSITER
Published: May 11, 2012

ALGIERS — Algeria’s governing party strengthened its rule in parliamentary elections this week, officials announced Friday, dampening hopes that the vote might bolster the standing of opposition voices and eliciting audible gasps of skepticism from many of those who heard the results at a hilltop hotel here.
An alliance of moderate Islamist parties did poorly in the voting, a result sharply at odds both with analysts’ predictions and the experience of Algeria’s neighbors in the wake of last year’s Arab Spring. The country’s governing party, the National Liberation Front, known by its French initials, F.L.N., gained almost half the seats in Parliament, government officials said.
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Disbelief was also evident in the statement of another established opposition party, the Socialist Forces Front, which said that “once more, the system has made use of all its ingenuity, not to find a solution to the crisis, but to consolidate its power.”

Over all, the results announced Friday by Interior Minister Daho Ould Kablia, at a news conference packed with Algerian journalists, appeared likely to add to the apathy in Algeria toward a Parliament that has little real power and is considered by analysts a rubber stamp
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2 years ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 4:06PM #3
KindredSai
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Of course in emerging democracies, opposition parties are always going to cry electoral faud, especially with a ruling party which has been in power in the past 40 years.


To me, until we see mass protests like in Syria by secular and religious citizens alike then we can complain about the status quo.


What's happened in Algeria is not only a step forward but a step in the right direction. All emerging democracies have toothing problems. Look at the history of Europe, if you don't believe me.

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2 years ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:18PM #4
BDboy
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As long new government reflects wishes of the people, it does not matter if the leaders are religious or not.


If the leaders happens to be religious leaning, we (Non-Algerians) should stay out of their business.


Last time I checked they did not harm or attacked another nation, so ought to leave them alone. :-)

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2 years ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:22PM #5
rocketjsquirell
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BDboy


Your "consistency" on matters political and religious is duly noted.

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2 years ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 3:45PM #6
BDboy
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May 17, 2012 -- 2:22PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


BDboy


Your "consistency" on matters political and religious is duly noted.






>>>>>>>> I know you are making notes. :-)


Hope you pay some attention to WHAT I am talking about. My positions are consistant (fairness and justice for all).


Take care.


 

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2 years ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 4:53PM #7
rocketjsquirell
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BDboy


I have noticed that your definition of "all" does not include Israel, Israelis or members of a certain religious/ethnic/national group.   


I wonder why that might be?

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2 years ago  ::  May 19, 2012 - 7:46AM #8
BDboy
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May 17, 2012 -- 4:53PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


BDboy


I have noticed that your definition of "all" does not include Israel, Israelis or members of a certain religious/ethnic/national group.   


I wonder why that might be?




>>>>>> Actually it does. But since we discuss Israeli politics and absurd policies towards non-Jews most of the time, I find you defending land theft and human right abusers of native non-jewish people.


Last time I checked, that is not fair.


Like all people of the world, Jewish people deserve due respect and dignity. At the same time if SOME of them support racist policies and theft (Thou shall not steal??), I cannot support such deceptive policies.


I only share my personal views and if you do not agree with me, it is fine. :-)


Take care.

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2 years ago  ::  May 20, 2012 - 5:27PM #9
rocketjsquirell
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BDboy


If you were against stealling you would be staunchly pro-Israel, in fact you would be an extremist, you would reject all attempts by the so called Palestinains to steal any Israeli property. You would be insisting that the Arab Palestinians  renounce their claims to every sqyaure inch of Israel including those inches located in Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Jerusalem and for that matter Jordan.


 You see the question is not so simple as you think. All of lands of Israel belong to the Jewish people. A fact which was internationally recognized by San Remo Agreement and which has never been repealed. It is only due to the fact that the Israelis wish to accomodate the claims and needs of the Arabs that the Arabs have any lands at all. They do not have them by legal right or title.


Of course if the Israeli insisted on their rights, there would be no chance of a solution. The reverse is also true.


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