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3 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 5:42PM #1
Ironhold
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Note that this is MSN who is reporting this.

Seattle - vandalism is rampant, as numerous buildings and vehicles have had their windows smashed out by individual Occupy protestors; tires have also reportedly been slashed. one of the people who had his car vandalized was a Canadian citizen, meaning that Occupy Seattle is now about to incur an International brow-beating

Oakland - protestors have been pounding on bank windows and going face-first with local police officials. This appears to be part of a larger effort to shut the entire city down.

So yeah - at least two chapters of the Occupy movement are now in the process of embarassing the larger organization.

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3 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 7:32PM #2
Druac
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They need to stand for something other than anarchy. Protesting is one thing, vandalism and obstruction is another all together, in my honest opinion. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and all that jazz.


Occupy This!


We need to get serious about changing our government and wrenching the control from the corporations and filthy rich, but in my honest opinion, this is not the way to do it…and Occupy has done nothing but embarrass itself over and over again.

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3 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 8:03PM #3
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Seattle Times reporters on the scene today say "May Day protests turned violent early Tuesday afternoon as a cluster of about 50 demonstrators dressed in black and carrying poles smashed windows and clashed with police in the downtown Seattle retail core."


seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews...


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3 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 9:03PM #4
Bodean
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Waiting for Ted ... and the waving of hands.

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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 12:36AM #5
rangerken
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I'm sorry anyone got hurt and also I'm sorry about trashed businesses. BUT, I am very happy that the OWS types have once again shown that...


1. they are immature, amateur, anachists.


2. they are far, far differen from the law abiding tea party folks.


3. they obviously WANT to give the Repubicans a great campaign issue to use in the fall...well, I'm sure they don't, but that's the net effect.


4. and since in my state, Massachusetts, the Democratic candidate for senator running against Scott Brown, Liz Warren, has been a vocakl supporter of the OWS people, this will hurt her and make it even less likely that she will win in the fall. YEA!  (Brown supporter here obviously).


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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 1:49AM #6
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why would the OWS even want to identify themselves with the far left and the International workers movement? Don't they know that middle America identifies May Day with streams of Russian Tanks parading through the Soviet Bloc?



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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 8:45AM #7
catboxer
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The Seattle Times reports this morning that there were "spasms of violence" punctuating the "mostly peaceful" protests downtown yesterday. Still, it was a bad show in Seattle yesterday, especially early on.


seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews...


Most of the violence was vandalism of the broken-windows type, directed mostly against financial institutions. Now, there's no question in my mind that NikeTown deserved to have its windows busted and its store trashed, but at the same time doing that is a very bad idea, because it causes the protesters to lose the one battle they have to win -- the battle of the mass media.


If a movement like #OWS is to overcome the tyranny of the corporate bottom line and dictatorship of money, it will have to use force, just as Gandhi's followers did, and just as the civil rights people did 20 and 30 years later in the US. Repressive regimes will only yield ground under the pressure of force, since they can't be persuaded and they have no concscience people can appeal to.


But the force must be applied with great restraint and self-control. If the insurgents resort to violence, then they lose the battle of the media, and then it's checkmate and lights out.


My advice to the 50 or so people who split off from the main demonstration yesterday to break stuff is to control your vessel. It may feel good to resort to violence, and of course Bank of America has it coming.


I'd be in favor of it too, if I thought it would do any good.

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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 8:54AM #8
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The Mayday protests turned violent before they even began:


NYPD Celebrates May Day


Think about what just happened, here. On a day strongly associated with the old Soviet bloc, armed government agents staged early morning raids on the homes of suspected political dissidents, detained them, then interrogated them about their plans and political affiliations. And of course this isn’t the first time this has happened. There were similar preemptive raids ahead of the 2008 RNC convention in Minneapolis. Almost none of the charges resulting from those raids stuck, and the city has since been handing out settlement checks like parade candy.


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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 9:14AM #9
ZafodB
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and this says it all

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3 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 9:36AM #10
catboxer
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Don't be silly. Who worries about rape at the Menopause Manor retirement village?

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