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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 11:13PM #1
rocketjsquirell
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Do the Palestinians want or need a Saudi puppet? Do the Israelis? And what does it all mean?

WJC ANALYSIS - The secret connection: Muhammad Dahlan and the Saudi royal family

30 April 2012

By Pinhas Inbari

The ongoing rivalry between PLO leader Mahmoud Abbas and his young challenger Mohammad Dahlan is an open secret on the Palestinian street. What may, however, come as a surprise, is the involvement of Saudi Arabia in the internal Palestinian struggle for power.  Recently, the kingdom has dramatically decreased its subsidies to the Palestinian Authority. Furthermore, Abbas is almost never invited to visit any of the Gulf Emirates or Saudi Arabia. Dahlan, on the other hand, is known to have a home base in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as well as a special relationship with Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia.
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it is likely that the Saudis and the Gulf States are siding with Dahlan because they perceive the Palestinian problem as irrelevant and distracting in the context of the real priorities and challenges they face, preferring to cooperate with Israel against Iran rather than with Ramallah and Gaza against Israel.
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Another reason behind Saudi Arabia’s support of Dahlan is the development of an alliance between Hamas and Iran. Saudi efforts to reconcile Fatah and Hamas – the so-called Mecca Accords – were an attempt to sever the ties between Hamas and the regime in Tehran. The failure of the Accord resulted in Hamas’ becoming a de facto satellite of Iran.
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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 1:22AM #2
rangerken
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If the Saudis are acting in a pragmatic way that's good. And anything that hurts Hamas is also a good thing.


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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 12:04PM #3
LeahOne
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Considering the Saudis are teh 'guardians' of Mecca and Medina - and having seen the way many Sunni simply do not consider Shi'a to be 'real Islam'  - I am not surprised by all of that.


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2 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 3:05PM #4
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 11:13PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:

Do the Palestinians want or need a Saudi puppet? Do the Israelis? And what does it all mean?

WJC ANALYSIS - The secret connection: Muhammad Dahlan and the Saudi royal family

30 April 2012

By Pinhas Inbari

The ongoing rivalry between PLO leader Mahmoud Abbas and his young challenger Mohammad Dahlan is an open secret on the Palestinian street. What may, however, come as a surprise, is the involvement of Saudi Arabia in the internal Palestinian struggle for power.  Recently, the kingdom has dramatically decreased its subsidies to the Palestinian Authority. Furthermore, Abbas is almost never invited to visit any of the Gulf Emirates or Saudi Arabia. Dahlan, on the other hand, is known to have a home base in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as well as a special relationship with Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia.
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it is likely that the Saudis and the Gulf States are siding with Dahlan because they perceive the Palestinian problem as irrelevant and distracting in the context of the real priorities and challenges they face, preferring to cooperate with Israel against Iran rather than with Ramallah and Gaza against Israel.
. . .
Another reason behind Saudi Arabia’s support of Dahlan is the development of an alliance between Hamas and Iran. Saudi efforts to reconcile Fatah and Hamas – the so-called Mecca Accords – were an attempt to sever the ties between Hamas and the regime in Tehran. The failure of the Accord resulted in Hamas’ becoming a de facto satellite of Iran.
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full article:
www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/1169...[/quote]



Historically Saudi Royals are in line with Israeli and US policies. Dahlan has been the favourite "Boy" of Israel and the US for few years now. I think there was an indepth discussion about it on PBS few years ago. When Dahlan was giving arms to anti-Hamas PLO sun groups when a fight broke up.


Having said that, Saudi Arabia has done it's best to motivate both Hamas and PLO to work as a team and stop violent "Protests". Any party which tries to stop violence is a good thing.


Saudi Arabia's king Abduallah also offered Israel an "Arab proposal" with an attractive offer to Israel but it was rejected by Israelis (Which did not get much press in the US at the time but known all over the world).


You can criticise Saudi Arabia for other things but they have a good leader in king Abduallah and I hope such mature leadership will continue in such an important country.

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2 years ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 5:29PM #5
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BDBoy


the "Saudi Proposal" to Israel was unconditional surrender.  It was not an attractive or acceptable "offer"

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2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 3:25PM #6
BDboy
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May 2, 2012 -- 5:29PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


BDBoy


the "Saudi Proposal" to Israel was unconditional surrender.  It was not an attractive or acceptable "offer"




 


>>>>>>> I doubt if you even read it!!


It was a "Collective Arab offer" lead by king Abdullah recognizing Israel in whole "Arab world" and Israel was asked to settle for the original border at 67. Since Israel "Grabbed more lands from Arabs", it refused to take back settlements.


It was offered TWICE by Saudi Arabia. Israel consistantly want to take over more lands from native and expecting "Peace" in return!!


An absurd strange way of thinking (To put it mildly).


Israel lauds Saudi peace plan before King Abdullah




 

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