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Switch to Forum Live View A dose of humility needed in predicting Israel’s future
2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 10:32AM #11
JAstor
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Apr 27, 2012 -- 6:51PM, Miraj wrote:


1SS wiill be the future, that's why I'm in the center  Laughing




Your opinion is fine and welcomed. It's expressing it as a certainty, for God, for history, for reality. 

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2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 2:53PM #12
BDboy
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Apr 28, 2012 -- 5:24PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


BDboy


It is going no where because no one who actually supports the national rights of the Jewish people or Israel would support it and no one who is honest about their intentions on the Arab side would either.  The only ones who support the non solution of one state are those who believe that doing so will crush the national aspirations and identity of the other side. There is absolutely not one bit of good faith in the one state solution proposal.   




 


>>>>>>>>> For over a thousand years Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine/Israel in RELATIVE peace (No crusade against Jews by Muslims). The problem currently is with millions of Euro-Jews claiming homes, firms and businesses of "Native" non-Jews.


One state solution can work if it is founded upon democratic ideals than any religious ideals. It would be an unique state (Much like Lebanon) with solid institutions to protect democracy (robust Justice system, police, press etc). So all communities have protection under common law. However if the "Jewish state" want to keep taking over lands from non-Jews and call it "Kosher" or blame God for these crimes, it would be very difficult to establish peace.

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2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 4:43PM #13
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May 4, 2012 -- 2:53PM, BDboy wrote:


Apr 28, 2012 -- 5:24PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


BDboy


It is going no where because no one who actually supports the national rights of the Jewish people or Israel would support it and no one who is honest about their intentions on the Arab side would either.  The only ones who support the non solution of one state are those who believe that doing so will crush the national aspirations and identity of the other side. There is absolutely not one bit of good faith in the one state solution proposal.   




 


>>>>>>>>> For over a thousand years Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine/Israel in RELATIVE peace (No crusade against Jews by Muslims).


ALERT ALERT - the above is an untrue statement! Throughout the period of Muslim domination of Israel there were repeated pogroms, Jews were discriminated against (as were Christians and other non-Muslims), religious and presonal freedoms of non-Muslims were restricted by the Muslim majority. 



The problem currently is with millions of Euro-Jews claiming homes, firms and businesses of "Native" non-Jews.


ALERT ALERT - the above is an untrue statement! The problem is the refusal of the Arabs to accept the existence of the Jewish state and to accept Jewish sovereignty anywhere in Israel.





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