Post Reply
Page 1 of 2  •  1 2 Next
Switch to Forum Live View The 26th Anniversary of Chernobyl
2 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 7:25PM #1
solfeggio
Posts: 8,536
Chernobyl's Reacter 4 explosion left a huge exclusion zone whilst displacing hundreds of thousands of people, still threatens the lives of thousands, and has left radioactive contamination over Europe.  Something like two million people were affected by this tragedy in one way or another.

abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/u...

As one Common Dreams blogger put it: 'Nukes are perhaps the most dangerous invention of mankind and to continue their use in any way, shape, or form is as dangerous an existential threat to life on earth as global warming.  What is so difficult to comprehend about that?'

The lesson Chernobyl has taught us is that anywhere there is a nuclear reactor, people are at risk. 
Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 7:39PM #2
arielg
Posts: 9,114

The Ukraine's government, along with the European Union and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, is building a gigantic new shell to cover Chernobyl's exploded reactor ... 


Anybody thought it is just something that  happened a long time ago?  And what are they going to do in Fukushima?

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 9:58PM #3
Ironhold
Posts: 10,918

Ever actually read up on the details of what took place there?


The reactor was the perfect storm of poor design, poor construction, poor training, and poor management.


Even by Soviet standards, the reactor was a disaster waiting to happen.


Don't judge all reactors by this one (albeit shocking) outlier.

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 7:41AM #4
arielg
Posts: 9,114

Apr 26, 2012 -- 9:58PM, Ironhold wrote:


Ever actually read up on the details of what took place there?


The reactor was the perfect storm of poor design, poor construction, poor training, and poor management.


Even by Soviet standards, the reactor was a disaster waiting to happen.


Don't judge all reactors by this one (albeit shocking) outlier.




They are all the same. If it was built by  human beings, it will eventually misfunction. It's Murphy's law.


  After every disaster, we hear the " never again" BS.  Maybe never again exactly the same problem, but there will be other problems, maybe even worse. Count on it.

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 6:11PM #5
solfeggio
Posts: 8,536

Indeed: Count on it.

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 9:59PM #6
teilhard
Posts: 48,371

Yes ... EVERY Technology or Device is FALLIBLE ... 


Periodically, e.g., an Airplane CRASHES, often with loss of Life ... that, DESPITE our best Engineering Design Efforts, skilled Maintenence, Air Traffic Control Arrangements, extensive Pilot Training, etc. ... BUT the Fact is ... that MOST Airplanes -- the vast MAJORITY of Airplanes -- virtually ALL Airplanes -- go through an entire Cycle of Working Life WITHOUT Crashing ... So, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY FEW Persons die in any given year due to an Airplane Crash ...


And even FEWER Persons die -- or have EVER died -- from a Nuclear Power Plant Failure ...


Facts ...


Apr 27, 2012 -- 7:41AM, arielg wrote:


Apr 26, 2012 -- 9:58PM, Ironhold wrote:


Ever actually read up on the details of what took place there?


The reactor was the perfect storm of poor design, poor construction, poor training, and poor management.


Even by Soviet standards, the reactor was a disaster waiting to happen.


Don't judge all reactors by this one (albeit shocking) outlier.




They are all the same. If it was built by  human beings, it will eventually misfunction. It's Murphy's law.


  After every disaster, we hear the " never again" BS.  Maybe never again exactly the same problem, but there will be other problems, maybe even worse. Count on it.





Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 1:34AM #7
solfeggio
Posts: 8,536

Sweeping generalities about the dangers we all face just going about our lives have nothing to do with the very real dangers posed by nuclear power.


www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nucl...


www.ehow.com/about_4759852_dangers-nucle...


Nuclear power is not the answer to the world's energy needs.


Clean, green sustainable, renewable sources of energy are the answer.


 

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 10:35AM #8
christzen
Posts: 5,809

Apr 28, 2012 -- 1:34AM, solfeggio wrote:


Sweeping generalities about the dangers we all face just going about our lives have nothing to do with the very real dangers posed by nuclear power.


www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nucl...


www.ehow.com/about_4759852_dangers-nucle...


Nuclear power is not the answer to the world's energy needs.


Clean, green sustainable, renewable sources of energy are the answer.


 




 


Let's see.Nuclear is too dangerous,even though the French happily toodle along making so much of their electricity from it they sometimes have to shut down on weekends because they can make more than they use.Good news for them when the fringe Germans scare their country away from nuclear,they can just starting exporting power to Germany and the rest of Europe that runs scared.The French can become the major power player of western Europe by becoming the main supplier of it's electricity.Piss off the French,sit in the dark!.Hydrocarbons pollute and cause global warmng.Hydroelectric ruins rivers and nature.Wind turbines kill migratory birds.Any ocean tide based technology will be found to have killed fish,along with more lovable sea life like dolphins and seals.That leaves us powering the world with solar.


 


Good luck with that.


 


The future SHOULD be nuclear fusion,but when the alarmists scare the world away from nuclear fission,the advancement to fusion will die as well,and we'll all learn to get by in a world in which only rich people who can afford massive solar arrays have electricity.


When it's not cloudy.

Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 10:54AM #9
mountain_man
Posts: 38,086

Apr 28, 2012 -- 1:34AM, solfeggio wrote:

Sweeping generalities about the dangers we all face just going about our lives have nothing to do with the very real dangers posed by nuclear power....


Life is dangerous enough; we don't need to be adding another major, unnecessary, danger like nuclear power. Only those that have been suckered in by the nuclear power religion believe that nuclear power, the most expensive, the dirtiest, and the most dangerous, form of power generation is an answer to anything.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
Quick Reply
Cancel
2 years ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 1:05PM #10
teilhard
Posts: 48,371

No one has suggested that Nuclear Power is "THE Answer to the World's Energy Needs ... "


Obviously, we need a MIX of Technologies -- INCLUDING "Nuclear" ...


Apr 28, 2012 -- 1:34AM, solfeggio wrote:


Sweeping generalities about the dangers we all face just going about our lives have nothing to do with the very real dangers posed by nuclear power.


www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nucl...


www.ehow.com/about_4759852_dangers-nucle...


Nuclear power is not the answer to the world's energy needs.


Clean, green sustainable, renewable sources of energy are the answer.


 





Quick Reply
Cancel
Page 1 of 2  •  1 2 Next
 
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing
    Advertisement

    Beliefnet On Facebook