Consider my jaw dropped!  This is what the arab spring has become in Egypt?  More outrageous Islamist crappola?  It does not even make sense.
It looks like it is going to pass, these guys dominate egyptian parliment

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434...

Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives - for up to six hours after their death.

The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.

It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14 and the ridding of women's rights of getting education and employment.

I'm confused. We're told constantly that brainwashed Arabs and Muslims aren't allowed free speech to dissent or oppose their authoritarian ME governments.  Yet, the article says Arabs are speaking out and opposing governments acts. OMG! Is it possible that stuff we've been told here about Arabs and Muslims is crap?

Apr 27, 2012 -- 12:58AM, habesor wrote:

Miraj,

For about the first year and a half, there was a great deal of debate in Iran after the Shah fell. After that, there was a clamp down on free discussion. If the Islamic parties take over in Egypt, how long, if at all, will it be before there is a clamp down on free expression there? 

Habesor

I would fail miserably as a fortune teller, mostly because I don't believe in them.  However, Egypt and Iran are two different entities.  Predominantly Shia Iran has a designated clerical class that is considered to be infallible and authoritative, which has stunted political dissent there to a great degree.

Egypt is a work in progress, but, historically it's not been crippled as much by religious doctrine as by social and political doctrines.  That is where the real spheres of influence exist.  It's up to the people to decide who/what wears that crown and what they do with it.  When the social atmosphere is politically confident, modernism takes hold.  When it is weak, feeling challenged, cultural traditions take hold.  At this time, they appear to be in striking opposition to each other.  Time will tell what the outcome will be.

Apr 27, 2012 -- 2:29AM, Miraj wrote:

Apr 27, 2012 -- 12:58AM, habesor wrote:

Miraj,

For about the first year and a half, there was a great deal of debate in Iran after the Shah fell. After that, there was a clamp down on free discussion. If the Islamic parties take over in Egypt, how long, if at all, will it be before there is a clamp down on free expression there? 

Habesor

I would fail miserably as a fortune teller, mostly because I don't believe in them.  However, Egypt and Iran are two different entities.  Predominantly Shia Iran has a designated clerical class that is considered to be infallible and authoritative, which has stunted political dissent there to a great degree.

Egypt is a work in progress, but, historically it's not been crippled as much by religious doctrine as by social and political doctrines.  That is where the real spheres of influence exist.  It's up to the people to decide who/what wears that crown and what they do with it.  When the social atmosphere is politically confident, modernism takes hold.  When it is weak, feeling challenged, cultural traditions take hold.  At this time, they appear to be in striking opposition to each other.  Time will tell what the outcome will be.

 

>>>>>>>> yes Egypt is a work in progress and it made a lot of progress in last ten years albeit the world only talks about "Arab Spring" but in business side (Economy) Egypt made some progress.

Predictably because of Arab Spring, Egyptians are talking a pause. It has been a movement driven by economy and religion is just playing a side role.

So far the religious parties shown a lot of maturity in dealing with political stuff and ideas of democracy. I hope they keep this policy and move Egypt forward.

 

Apr 27, 2012 -- 3:33PM, LeahOne wrote:

"So far the religious parties shown a lot of maturity in dealing with political stuff and ideas of democracy. I hope they keep this policy and move Egypt forward."

BDBoy, I'd like you to explain how you figure that - given the set of laws which those religious parties have proposed ???

IMO, it's nobody's business what a couple does in the bedroom, but the one law seems to me highly disrespectful of women.  Ditto lowering the 'age of consent' to 14....

I'm curious, BD - have you discussed these proposed laws with any of your female relatives or friends?

It could have been worded better, so I understand why you're asking, Leah.  I don't think BDBoy was defending the proposed laws, but the political process.