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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2012 - 11:43AM #11
arielg
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What is there to read that is so mysterious?  They got used to spend money like crazy because they got away with it in the past and apparently nobody was supervising the practices. 


 The US bureocrats got used to spend lavishly  when the country had money to burn. Hard to stop those practices once they start.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 11:18AM #12
TemplarS
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Sure, Ariel, people will do what they can get away with.


But where was the oversight?


Things were not much different in much of the private sector a few years back (which is why Dennis Koslowski is in jail, where some of these GSA guys need to be).  But nowadays, at least where I work (though it seems, not in the financial sector, and not as applied to top execs) any sort of expenditures for group employee activities are subject to very strict scrutiny.  The company doesn't even pay for an annual employee summer picnic anymore, though they used to.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 12:26PM #13
Girlchristian
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Apr 19, 2012 -- 11:18AM, TemplarS wrote:


Sure, Ariel, people will do what they can get away with.


But where was the oversight?


Things were not much different in much of the private sector a few years back (which is why Dennis Koslowski is in jail, where some of these GSA guys need to be).  But nowadays, at least where I work (though it seems, not in the financial sector, and not as applied to top execs) any sort of expenditures for group employee activities are subject to very strict scrutiny.  The company doesn't even pay for an annual employee summer picnic anymore, though they used to.




I work for a NFP so we're monitored on spending. I'm also the education/event planner for my organization and our trainings are highly monitored, because some of the costs involved with those come from our federal funder (although food is paid for out of private funds due to newer regulations).


That said, any employee activities that we do are paid for out of our private fund and are the first things to be cut when money gets tight. Last year we had an evening holiday party for staff and spouses and this year we're having a staff only lunch and we have to come back to work afterwards.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 12:25PM #14
Marcion
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We never would have learned about the incident if it hadn't been for one cheapskate agent trying to stiff a hooker. I bet he is popular with his fellow agents.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 1:23PM #15
TemplarS
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Well, Marcion, that is a different scandal altogether.


It's not yet clear (to me, anyway) whether the agents used tax money or their own money to hire the prostitutes (presumably their own, or the one guy wouldn't have tried to stiff her, but you never know).  It was a violation of rules and security clearance in any event. 


But  not criminal (prostitution is legal in Columbia) so these bozos probably won't be joining Mr. Neely at Leavenworth.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 7:33PM #16
Fodaoson
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Apr 24, 2012 -- 12:25PM, Marcion wrote:


We never would have learned about the incident if it hadn't been for one cheapskate agent trying to stiff a hooker. I bet he is popular with his fellow agents.






If I am not mistaken, prostitution is legal in some counties in Nevada 

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 8:54PM #17
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