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3 years ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 1:00PM #1
KindredSai
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uk.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/kepco-...


(Reuters) - Korea Electric Power Corp (KEPCO) said it will begin talks next year with the United Arab Emirates on a new deal for four nuclear power plants, and plans to spend 800 billion won ($706.06 million) this year on overseas resources development including acquisitions.

...No doubt Israel will try and halt this... 
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 3:00PM #2
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Most likely Israel will not care in the least. The UAE does not take an aggressive posture against Israel and the UAE would likely agree to all the usual international safeguards to ensure that it uses its nuclear facilities purely for civilian purposes. On the other hand there is absolutely no good reason for the UAE to switch to nuclear power which is less safe and less reliable than the oil they use now. 

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 4:45PM #3
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There is no problem with acquiring atomic energy for non military uses such as generating elctrictricty. The UAE is tiny and has  relatively limited fossil fuel reserves.


The problem is that Iran's program has a military intent in violation of the non proliferation treaty which Iran itself is a signatory. Iran needs to be held to it's word if diplomacy is to worth anything.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 7:13PM #4
KindredSai
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Apr 15, 2012 -- 3:00PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


Most likely Israel will not care in the least. The UAE does not take an aggressive posture against Israel and the UAE would likely agree to all the usual international safeguards to ensure that it uses its nuclear facilities purely for civilian purposes. On the other hand there is absolutely no good reason for the UAE to switch to nuclear power which is less safe and less reliable than the oil they use now. 




If you are correct:


Why did Israel pressure the US to halt Jordan's peaceful nuclear proliferation?


UAE's oil is not an infinite resource when it comes to energy, the UAE believe it or not need nuclear power for electricity.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 7:15PM #5
KindredSai
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Apr 15, 2012 -- 4:45PM, Roodog wrote:


There is no problem with acquiring atomic energy for non military uses such as generating elctrictricty. The UAE is tiny and has  relatively limited fossil fuel reserves.


The problem is that Iran's program has a military intent in violation of the non proliferation treaty which Iran itself is a signatory. Iran needs to be held to it's word if diplomacy is to worth anything.




There is no evidence to suggest at this point in time that Iran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb. The treaty is not against nuclear proliferation for civilian purposes. Iran is not even allowed this, this is double standards.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 7:19PM #6
Mlyons619
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Nossir.


If the UAE starts building breeder reactors, and begins development of LR ICBMs, then perhaps the UN and the West wil start sanctioning the UAE.


That's Iran's WHOLE problem, that small thing of enriching/possibly weaponizing uranium, which you seem to have conveniently forgotten.


Sorry.  No double standard - but thanks for playing...

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 16, 2012 - 7:30PM #7
KindredSai
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Apr 16, 2012 -- 7:19PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


Nossir.


If the UAE starts building breeder reactors, and begins development of LR ICBMs, then perhaps the UN and the West wil start sanctioning the UAE.


That's Iran's WHOLE problem, that small thing of enriching/possibly weaponizing uranium, which you seem to have conveniently forgotten.


Sorry.  No double standard - but thanks for playing...




Strange reasoning, there are no protocol prohibitions on reactors and LR ICBMs.


I think the Western concern is that technology in the form of a dirty bomb (one in a suitcase) can fall in the hands of other terrorists too, which I concede is a genuine concern.


However the Western rhetoric especially Israeli is that Iran is not allowed any form of nuclear power, even for civilian means. The US could be more relaxed with this along with Russia.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 2:40AM #8
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Apr 16, 2012 -- 7:30PM, KindredSai wrote:


The US could be more relaxed with this along with Russia.



And as I understand, the president agrees with you:


President Barack Obama has told Iran the United States would accept Tehran having a civilian nuclear programme if the Islamic state can prove it is not seeking atomic weapons, the Washington Post said Friday.


www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2...

tl;dr
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 3:01PM #9
KindredSai
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I rest my case...

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 9:54PM #10
Mlyons619
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WHAT case?


Iran's breedder reactors and heavty water plants PLUS its ICBM development are indicative of intent to violate the NWNPT.  All Irab has to do is let the IAEA inspect the plants in question.


But then again, it's always been the issue of inspection and verification.  If Iran had been as open to IAEA as the UEA it was not have all the grief it's received...

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