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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:07AM #1
TENAC
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Really a good article.  Well written, precise, accurate.


Who is this guy pretending to be president?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 11:43AM #2
Mostyn32
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Golly gee whillikers, imagine that? An anti-Obama article written by one of the US' top conservative writers and published in a conservative magazine. Gosh, that's credible!

"God is no captious sophister, eager to trip us up whenever we say amiss, but a courteous tutor, ready to amend what, in our weakness or our ignorance, we say ill, and to make the most of what we say aright."  from 'A Learned Discourse on Justification', a sermon by Richard Hooker (1554-1600).
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:04PM #3
TENAC
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Apr 14, 2012 -- 11:43AM, Mostyn32 wrote:


Golly gee whillikers, imagine that? An anti-Obama article written by one of the US' top conservative writers and published in a conservative magazine. Gosh, that's credible!




Its purely facts.


I would accept facts from a leftist writer.  But you seldom see that.


What do you see as inaccurate?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:33PM #4
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I commend you for the thread title. Truly, it's truth in advertising.


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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 3:19PM #5
Bodean
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Apr 14, 2012 -- 12:04PM, TENAC wrote:


Apr 14, 2012 -- 11:43AM, Mostyn32 wrote:


Golly gee whillikers, imagine that? An anti-Obama article written by one of the US' top conservative writers and published in a conservative magazine. Gosh, that's credible!




Its purely facts.


I would accept facts from a leftist writer.  But you seldom see that.


What do you see as inaccurate?




Yep .... ya reckon Moslyn give a rap about facts.  NOPE .. she's an Obama supporter.  Facts .. irrevlevant ... pro Social Justice ... is all that is required.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 3:26PM #6
Unworthyone
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My, my! What a fair and balanced review of the Obama presidency.


I particularly enjoyed his criticism of Obama going to Vegas on the taxpayers' dime after telling companies that were being bailed out by the taxpayers not to party in Vegas.


The president's message was "Don't go throwing lavish, expensive parties ANYWHERE with money borrowed from taxpayers."


Every president in the past fifty years has traveled to Vegas for political and presidential reasons.  To make it out like this is some sort of wild party weekend for the benefit of the Obama family is disingenuous at best.  It has as much validity as claiming the president was "indoctrinating our school children" when he told them to study hard and stay in school.


The American people as a whole support the Buffett rule.  They have overwhelming support for the idea that millionaires and billionaires should not pay lower income tax rates than average working people.  It has to do with the fact that a guy worth several million dollars can lose a few hundred thousand in the stock market, and it has literally no impact on his quality of life.  On the other hand, a working class guy can lose half his equity value in his home in a mortgage crisis, and it means he will probably never get to retire or put his kids through college.  Some call this "class warfare" but most see it as an issue of fundamental fairness.


The writer claims Romney earned his money the old fashioned way, by earning it.  Of course, if you earn it by being a corporate raider, stripping companies of their assets,lining your own pockets, and then leaving the rotting carcass in your wake, the American people, some of whom lost their livelihoods because of you, are not going to admire your ingenuity or success.


And just like 'outraged' Gingrich demanding that the president apologize for something an actor Robert Deniro said, the writer calls what another said, someone who is not in the employ of the Obama campaign, the thoughts of the president.  They've been doing this since 2008, when they tried unsuccessfully to claim the words of Rev. Wright were the sentiments of Obama.  The American people are not that stupid.  They know that it is the people who say stupid stuff that are responsible for them. Just like they know that it is not the president's responsibility to audit every White House staffer's income taxes to make sure they are not in arrears.


And TENAC, your thread title is misleading as well.  This article makes no mention of the Iraq war coming to an end.  No mention of the death of Bin Laden.  No mention of General Motors showing their greatest profits in a generation.  No mention of all the months of stock market growth or economic recovery and unemployment rates moving in the right direction. You think you can call a thread a "Reader's Digest" account of the past 3.5 years and leave out those little tidbits?  You think those were just minor footnotes?    No, you are a partisan who thinks someone will be stupid enough to read the linked article and conclude that every single moment of the Obama presidency has been one big fallacious disaster.


And that is why the republicans are going to do poorly in the November elections. They, like you believe that they can tell any group of people whatever you think they want to hear, and they will not bother to compare the rhetoric with reality.


Just say, "There is no conservative war on women," and the problem goes away, right?  There is no issue regarding birth control, equality in employment, or gender discrimination.  The voters will just suck up the ether.


Just say, "We support the working classes," and they will simply ignore all the republican legislation that has been proposed and passed to the detriment of themselves.


Just say, "We can make gas prices drop like a rock," and people are going to just buy that, hook, line, and sinker.  No question about it.


Just say, "We don't want to tax the job creators," and the electorate will never remember that the employment rates did not correlate with the massive Bush tax cuts of 2001. In fact, tax cuts have never correlated with reduced unemployment.  But the voters are just too stupid to see the reality for themselves.


Please go back to "Obama is secretly a Kenyan Muslim," and "Healthcare reform is a secret plot to kill your grandma."  It will make as much sense.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 3:51PM #7
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I've been around for many Presidents. I held every one of them in high esteem. Especially those who kept their promises, even if I didnt like their policies, at least I could trust on their word. Some were very uplifting, some gave us a vision of entering space, and succeeding in planting a flag on the moon. Important? Yes, for when you give our country a vision that is great, we truly BELIEVE! We may complain about spending money on something more important, but in our hearts we really are goal seekers, dreamers, inventors, innovators and people who like working together. Thats why this President has been such a disappointment. He did promise us transparency and we have gotten that. This is the first President I dont trust. He most times speaks out of both sides of his mouth, and if he were a Republican or an Independent, that kind of untruth teller, will always eventually become transparent. The truth sets you free. And even if this man did everything he promised policy wise, his character alone, has given us far less, then we as a hopeful people deserve. 

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 4:07PM #8
Unworthyone
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You mentioned the moon landing.  The race to the moon began under a democrat president.  It continued under the next president, and it was culminated under a republican president.  Does that mean that Richard Nixon should get no credit for the moon landing since it was commenced under a democrat administration?  Or that he should get all the credit because he was in office when it happened?


That was back in a time when partisan politics took a back seat to the needs of the nation.  Sure, politicians still stood on their soap boxes and railed against things like 'government control of healthcare' and 'taxes' and 'socialism' and 'race baiting' but when it came right down to brass tacks, they put away the public silliness and got to work on the nation's problems.  And it was in that spirit of cooperation that we were able to put a man on the moon.


Nothing good will ever come out of Washington until that spirit returns.  Don't hold your breath.

I never consider a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.  Thomas Jefferson

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

You can get anything you want out of life if you will just help enough other people get what they want. Zig Ziglar

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/opinion/why-i-m-for-the-brady-bill.html
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 4:31PM #9
Ironhold
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Apr 14, 2012 -- 3:26PM, Unworthyone wrote:


My, my! What a fair and balanced review of the Obama presidency.


I particularly enjoyed his criticism of Obama going to Vegas on the taxpayers' dime after telling companies that were being bailed out by the taxpayers not to party in Vegas.




Actually, Vegas has hosted the International Consumer Electronics convention since the 1970s, is home to a campus in the University of Nevada system, hosts an LDS temple, and features at least one show from Cirque de Soleil at any given moment.


In that sense, there are numerous legitimate reasons for a person to go to Vegas without ever setting foot inside a casino.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 6:21PM #10
Mostyn32
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Apr 14, 2012 -- 3:19PM, Bodean wrote:


[Yep .... ya reckon Moslyn give a rap about facts.  NOPE .. she's an Obama supporter.  Facts .. irrevlevant ... pro Social Justice ... is all that is required.




It may come as a shock, Bodean, but I'm neither a supporter nor a detractor of Obama. However, I recognize biased writing when I see it...which evidently you do not! The more I hear and read about the political landscape of the US, the more I'm glad I don't live there!

"God is no captious sophister, eager to trip us up whenever we say amiss, but a courteous tutor, ready to amend what, in our weakness or our ignorance, we say ill, and to make the most of what we say aright."  from 'A Learned Discourse on Justification', a sermon by Richard Hooker (1554-1600).
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