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3 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 1:03PM #1
rocketjsquirell
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I was surprised when no one posted about Syria's firing over the Turkish border yesterday - but maybe I should not have been

In any event it looks as if Assad's Syria is not about to implement the Peace Plan and that things are going to get even worse before they get any better. Not that the humanitarians and human rights advocates around here give a flying fig newton.

No sign of Syrian pullback as UN deadline passes

Syrian forces attack Homs, village of Marea, human rights activists say. Meanwhile, Turkey accuses Syria of violating border

Associated Press

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The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says it saw no signs of large-scale troop pullback Tuesday and that most areas of Syria appeared calm. This is a sharp contrast to heavy attacks by Syrian forces on restive towns in recent days.
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Syria's government "could have been more active and decisive" in implementing the peace plan. He also called for a speedy deployment of international observers - including Russians - in the country.

 
Turkey: Syria violated border

Meanwhile, Turkey's prime minister accused Syria of infringing its border and says his country is considering what steps to take in response, including measures "we don't want to think about."

 

Recep Tayyip Erdogan was speaking to reporters during a visit to China on Tuesday, a day after Syrian forces opened fire across the border, killing two people in a refugee camp.
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full article:
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-42145...
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:44AM #2
Dostojevsky
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Fascinating listening to the news on Syria.


First you must make sure your ears are wide open.


While reporters give us their version of what is gonhg on, you wait for Kofi Annan to come on and say the same things but - he does not**


US Saudis and Turkey read the same script. They want Assad out and the war is on the table, tuff xxxx,  bad luck for the people who end up in a firing line. What is few thousand more dead? You never hear it discussed  how many ordinary people are going to die. Your mind is shifted to one enemy alone, one person,  we kill him and we give you the golden age.


 

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:57AM #3
LeahOne
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Uh-Huh.  Of course there's been this persistent rumor that reading 'Pravda' will atrophy one's brain cells, like frontal lobotomy from print.....


What has Kofi Annan actually said which was substantially different from the outrage and disgust expressed by Turkey's government after Syrian civilians fleeing the violence were shot by Syrian Army troops of Assad's, right on Turkey's doorstep? 


The last I read, Annan was ALSO furious with Assad's lies and continued murders of his own civilians.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:05AM #4
LeahOne
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Dos, are you perchance FORGETTING that shooting at people across an international border is a classic 'causus belli'???


If the Turks chose to move their entire military against the Syrian Government right now - I do not think there are any grounds for anyone to argue.  The Syrian military, acting on orders from the 'duly established' Syrian CinC, has killed people the Turkish Government was protecting.  The Syrian Army has violated Turkish sovereignty over Turkish soil.


War SHOULD be a last resort - but anyone who'd take Assad's word that it was an 'accident' now, is such a fool and an idiot they shouldn't be allowed out on their own!


And you, Dos are evidently suggesting the rest of us should ignore that and allow the Syrians to continue  murdering refugees WHY????

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:09AM #5
LeahOne
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Ah, sure - let's have the glorious 'Russian' military come in to protect the Syrians.....Suuuuuuuure!!!!!  Like they protected the Georgians and the Chechens, perhaps????


Who else did that sleazy Russian weasel nominate?  Let me guess:  the Iranians (Hezbollah) and the Chinese????? Perhaps the "Lebanese" (HAMAS)????

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 6:21PM #6
rocketjsquirell
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Update on the Syrian cease fire plan . . .

Syria carnage endangers Annan’s truce deadline
Posted on : 2012-04-11

Beirut
Syrian troops killed 31 people yesterday, pursuing a fierce assault on President Bashar Al Assad's opponents instead of silencing their big guns and leaving towns as promised under a fraying international peace plan.
The worst bloodshed was in the city of Homs, where shelling of opposition districts killed at least 26, activists said.
Opposition groups said there was no sign of a military pullout, with tanks still in cities such as Homs and Hama.
Citing satellite images, a French foreign ministry spokesman endorsed that view and denounced a Syrian assurance that troops were, in fact, withdrawing as a "blatant lie".

full article:
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 2:12AM #7
rangerken
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Here is a vey interesting, and disturbing take on the Syria situation from the Asia Times.


What's Going on At The Turkish-Syrian Border



This is NOT an American or Israeli opinion!


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Ken


Libertarian, Conservative, Life member of the NRA and VFW
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 2:16AM #8
rangerken
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This article is from March, but it poses an accurate analogy in my opinion, and a disturbing one.


syria-serbia-yugoslavia-bosnia-assad-milosevic



The comparrison is made between the Balkan mess that was only ended by NATO intervention (led of course by the US) and what is going on now in Syria.


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And here is another, recent article by the same author which is also disturbing, but well written and, I think, well researched.


syria-assad-ceasefire-turkey-revolution


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Ken

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 3:49PM #9
rocketjsquirell
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Daily Syria non-update

UN chief to Syria: World is watching with ‘skeptical eyes’
20 people killed since start of ceasefire; Clinton calls ceasefire a ‘first step’ en route to political transition

UN chief Ban Ki-moon and his envoy said Thursday they were encouraged that a ceasefire appears to be holding in Syria, but urged its government to keep its promises and said a single gunshot could derail the fragile peace. Israel Radio reported Thursday evening that 20 people had been killed since the ceasefire went into effect.

Ban told a news conference in Geneva that it is mainly up to Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime to keep its promise and hold to a ceasefire. “As of this moment the situation looks calmer. We are following it very closely,” Ban said.

“The world is watching, however, with skeptical eyes, since many promises previously made by the government of Syria had not been kept. The onus is on the government of Syria to prove that their words will be matched by their deeds at this time,” he said.

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full article:
www.timesofisrael.com/un-chief-to-syria-...



US: Assad has not implemented Syria ceasefire


By REUTERS


04/12/2012 21:12

Obama urges adherence to Annan-brokered truce; Clinton: US supports sending advance team to Damascus immediately.


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www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id...

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 5:11PM #10
rocketjsquirell
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'Syria fails to withdraw military from cities'

UN envoy Annan says despite ceasefire, Syria gov't failed to withdraw troops, heavy arms from cities; Security Council discusses observer mission

Associated Press
International envoy Kofi Annan told the UN Security Council Thursday that despite the fragile ceasefire in Syria, the government has failed to implement the council demand that it withdraw troops and heavy weapons from cities and towns, UN diplomats said.

 

The diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity because Annan's briefing was behind closed doors, said the joint UN-Arab League envoy urged the Security Council to demand that Syrian President Bashar Assad order his troops back to barracks.

full article:
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-42154...

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