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2 years ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 5:17PM #1
rocketjsquirell
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It appears the Show Must Go On!

Who knows maybe this time the Arab Palestinians will actually be serious. It could happen.

Netanyahu to meet with Fayyad next week
Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers set to talk after months of silence

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www.timesofisrael.com/netanyhu-to-meet-w...

Israeli, Palestinian Leaders to Meet, Discuss Negotiations

Israeli, Palestinian Leaders to Meet, Discuss Negotiations

    Netanyahu, Fayyad to meet next week in Jerusalem
    PA to deliver letter requiring preconditions for future talks
    Israel to send response urging return to negotiations without preconditions

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The two sides last met in January in Jordan under the sponsorship of King Abdullah II and the Middle East Quartet, which comprises the United States, the United Nations, the European Union and Russia. But as in the past, the talks ended when the Palestinian delegation walked out because Israel wouldn’t agree to the Palestinians’ precondition on new building.

full article:
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 7:02AM #2
Dostojevsky
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"But while Israel is expected to call for the Palestinians to resume talks without preconditions, the Palestinians will insist that Israel first stop building in Jerusalem and the West Bank and agree to negotiate based on the 1967 armistice lines."

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 9:28AM #3
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Apr 5, 2012 -- 7:02AM, Dostojevsky wrote:


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"But while Israel is expected to call for the Palestinians to resume talks without preconditions, the Palestinians will insist that Israel first stop building in Jerusalem and the West Bank and agree to negotiate based on the 1967 armistice lines."




Translation:  Palestinians DO NOT want to negotiate.  Thank you for reaffirming the Palestinian stance on peace.


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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2012 - 8:53AM #4
LeahOne
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Dos, there are two groups here:


One wants to hold discussions now.


The other insists on 'preconditions'  before they will condescend to discuss anything.


 


Which group do YOU think is more interested in having results and why - based ONLY on the information above?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2012 - 6:08PM #5
KindredSai
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Leah,


Pre-conditions are an imperative for negotiations can take years in which time Israel can encroach on a designated Palestinian State which will sway the outcome of negotiations much more into Israel's favour.


The peaceful resolution to this is a viable Palestinian State, having negotiations about a Palestinian State while building on a Palestinian State is NOT negotiation.


Although, I believe Palestinians will always sell themselves slightly short by entering into negotiations with Israelis. Israelis are colonialists, they are not interested in peace but the maintaining of Jewish demographic imported from various corners of the world, slowly pushing non-Jews out.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 12:18AM #6
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What self-serving twaddle.


Perhaps Israel can add the pre-condition that it has the right to exist as a Jewish State before entering in negotiation.


But I'm MORE than sure you would find that objectionable and proof positive that IOsrael wasn't REALLY interested in negotiations.


Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, etc....

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 4:22PM #7
KindredSai
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 12:18AM, Mlyons619 wrote:


What self-serving twaddle.


Perhaps Israel can add the pre-condition that it has the right to exist as a Jewish State before entering in negotiation.


But I'm MORE than sure you would find that objectionable and proof positive that IOsrael wasn't REALLY interested in negotiations.


Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, etc....




An inherently prejudice argument considering 25% of the State of Israel is already non-Jewish.


Palestinian pre-conditions are a must. Israelis colonialists, as a Native American chief once said, the white man made 147 treaties with the red man and broke all of them. Israel is like the white man. The wikileaks showed even Americans can't really trust Israelis.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 4:40PM #8
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Palestinian pre-conditions are a must?  Any Israeli preconditions can be dismissed?


All that means is that Palestinians don't really want peace at all.


What hypocrisy on the part of Palestinians.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 4:46PM #9
KindredSai
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


Palestinian pre-conditions are a must?  Any Israeli preconditions can be dismissed?


All that means is that Palestinians don't really want peace at all.


What hypocrisy on the part of Palestinians.




Palestinians aren't colonialists, they're indigenous to Pax Palestine. Israelis are importing immigrants all over the world to push out non-jews.


Israeli pre-conditions are built on bigotry, Palestinian pre-conditions are built on the respect of international law.


International law cites settlements are illegal and there is no legitimacy on continued building. The pre-conditions are just upholding international law.


You don't negotiate with a law breaker, do you?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 4:50PM #10
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Israelis are importing immigrants all over the world to push out non-jews.


Israeli pre-conditions are built on bigotry, Palestinian pre-conditions are built on the respect of international law.


International law cites settlements are illegal and there is no legitimacy on continued building. The pre-conditions are just upholding international law.


You don't negotiate with a law breaker, do you?




Thus the TRUE agenda is revealed.  The ONLY peace Palestinians want is the peace of the grave.


Thanks for revealing your TRUE bloody colors...

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