No, Sherri - MLyons chooses to call the bitch-granny of all whores for HAMAS the bigot that she has demonstrated herself to be in the Playboy interview and on many other occasions.

She's being slammed here for words she said which were a lot more sweeping than simply "the world is a better and a safer place without Ruthi Fogel and her children in it".

It's got nothing to do with her purporting to be a 'Christian', I'm sure.  Nor has it anything to do with the technicality of her American citizenship....  Yes, I DO question her loyalty to this country:  it's my absolute right to, especially after she's impugned mine. 

I'm sorry you can't bring yourself to consider the idea that a person can be a great inspiration AND inspire profound revulsion at the same time. 

 Charles Lindberg, who was in many ways a true American hero, was also an avowed enemy of  free press and democracy - and a very vocal supporter of Fascism.  (I tried to explain this in referring to Pound and Eliot, but I gather that was too esoteric a reference.) 

Apr 16, 2012 -- 7:07AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

Quote Leah:

"Sherri, how about you confront the inustice of the vile lie that 'the Jews control the White House'?"

Why is it vile and can you confirm it is a lie?

If no other reason, according to the official US Government standards for same (within the military at least) it completely qualifies as 'hate-speech'  because it singles out a group of people *by religion or ethnicity or sexual orientation* as being somehow "different" in the quality of their devotion to this nation.

That is why it's vile.

Although 'proving a negative' is technically impossible - I HAVE confirmed that it is a lie, repeatedly.  So have MANY other American posters, people who are not stupid nor ignorant nor 'bought off' nor Jewish.

If you go and ask him, I can think of one poster at least who is no Zionist, who's already told someone off for repeating this kind of filth......

Thomas worked in White House, she knows many people there

NO, she didn't:  she *reported* on briefings and events there.  She NEVER worked *for* the White House.  And if anyone working there chatted up reporters with info they were not supposed to have - it might just be treason.....

and she would know a lot more than she lets on.

Why?  Seems to me you've just dissed the professional standards of every WH employee there - and half of Congress as well. 

She took a great risk and lost her job. A person who could not afford to lose their job certainly would not dare speak.

Oh, what a pantload! Do you seriously believe that at 90 she'll be having to eat cat food 'cause she got fired for cause?   What "risk" was she taking - aside from being outed as a bigot? 

Just in case you've missed it, Dos - I and many others have personally confirmed that Thomas' statements about 'Jewish control' of the US government and business and media are a lie.

We have further identified for you the 'history' of that particular lie, from Henry Ford back to the Tsarist propagandists, and on back to the initial French satirist's diatribe which was against Napoleon III.

Links to scholarly sources have been posted - you might try reading 'religioustolerance.org' - on several occasions.

The research has already been done.  Several times over.  It IS a filthy lie, told ONLY by Jew-hating bigots. - I have NEVER seen it brought up by anyone else.

 No honest person persists in this slander and demonizing.

And each time someone has explained it, Dos - you have chosen to decide to ignore them, for whatever 'reasons'.

Apr 15, 2012 -- 11:40PM, LeahOne wrote:

No, Sherri - MLyons chooses to call the bitch-granny of all whores for HAMAS the bigot that she has demonstrated herself to be in the Playboy interview and on many other occasions.

She's being slammed here for words she said which were a lot more sweeping than simply "the world is a better and a safer place without Ruthi Fogel and her children in it".

It's got nothing to do with her purporting to be a 'Christian', I'm sure.  Nor has it anything to do with the technicality of her American citizenship....  Yes, I DO question her loyalty to this country:  it's my absolute right to, especially after she's impugned mine. 

I'm sorry you can't bring yourself to consider the idea that a person can be a great inspiration AND inspire profound revulsion at the same time. 

 Charles Lindberg, who was in many ways a true American hero, was also an avowed enemy of  free press and democracy - and a very vocal supporter of Fascism.  (I tried to explain this in referring to Pound and Eliot, but I gather that was too esoteric a reference.) 

 

Leah,

In my opinion, it should concern all Americans when those in positions of power in our government put the interests of another nation above our own.

And the ones who confront these traitorous like acts, like Helen Thomas has done, should be encouraged, not reviled.

Using hateful words, thinking hateful thoughts, are, I expect, choices every person has chosen to make in their lives. We all have the capacity to do good and do evil, and we all choose both paths in our lives in various ways and at various times, Helen Thomas and myself included. These words and acts do and often should invoke profound revulsion in others. Such actions are a part of being human we should seek to control and refrain from, in my opinion, but as long as we are human we remain susceptible to and will at times engage in them. At the same time, sometimes truths are spoken that paint others in a negative light, that others falsely call hate speech or hate acts, and that is, in my opinion, where Helen Thomas comments about the Occupation lie, as well as her comments about the divided loyalties of some inside our government.  Making these type of statements is  taking a stand for what is right and speaking out against what is wrong. Besides being moral teachings in many religions, these are also what I was taught as a child in American public schools to be American values. Reading about Helen Thomas life and how she very much sees herself as an American with American values, as much as anything else I expect these American values she was taught all her life have dictated the choices she has made in her life to take stands in difficult/controversial areas. To Kill A Mockingbird, an American classic, I expect stories like that have inspired many Americans, Helen Thomas included.

Sherri

Apr 16, 2012 -- 8:32AM, LeahOne wrote:

Apr 16, 2012 -- 7:07AM, Dostojevsky wrote:

Quote Leah:

"Sherri, how about you confront the inustice of the vile lie that 'the Jews control the White House'?"

Why is it vile and can you confirm it is a lie?

If no other reason, according to the official US Government standards for same (within the military at least) it completely qualifies as 'hate-speech'  because it singles out a group of people *by religion or ethnicity or sexual orientation* as being somehow "different" in the quality of their devotion to this nation.

That is why it's vile.

Although 'proving a negative' is technically impossible - I HAVE confirmed that it is a lie, repeatedly.  So have MANY other American posters, people who are not stupid nor ignorant nor 'bought off' nor Jewish.

If you go and ask him, I can think of one poster at least who is no Zionist, who's already told someone off for repeating this kind of filth......

Thomas worked in White House, she knows many people there

NO, she didn't:  she *reported* on briefings and events there.  She NEVER worked *for* the White House.  And if anyone working there chatted up reporters with info they were not supposed to have - it might just be treason.....

and she would know a lot more than she lets on.

Why?  Seems to me you've just dissed the professional standards of every WH employee there - and half of Congress as well. 

She took a great risk and lost her job. A person who could not afford to lose their job certainly would not dare speak.

Oh, what a pantload! Do you seriously believe that at 90 she'll be having to eat cat food 'cause she got fired for cause?   What "risk" was she taking - aside from being outed as a bigot? 

Just in case you've missed it, Dos - I and many others have personally confirmed that Thomas' statements about 'Jewish control' of the US government and business and media are a lie.

We have further identified for you the 'history' of that particular lie, from Henry Ford back to the Tsarist propagandists, and on back to the initial French satirist's diatribe which was against Napoleon III.

Links to scholarly sources have been posted - you might try reading 'religioustolerance.org' - on several occasions.

The research has already been done.  Several times over.  It IS a filthy lie, told ONLY by Jew-hating bigots. - I have NEVER seen it brought up by anyone else.

 No honest person persists in this slander and demonizing.

And each time someone has explained it, Dos - you have chosen to decide to ignore them, for whatever 'reasons'.

So if someone has been educated on the anti-semitic lies, and continues to repeat them anyway, what does that make them...?

Quote Mlyons:

'So if someone has been educated on the anti-semitic lies, and continues to repeat them anyway, what does that make them...?'

It is a lie to you because it does not gel with 'your version' of truth.

We sure make big huhas when Iran (or other) bans some books or some scholars entry into the country. But the western world has a meaner way of assasination - that of person's character and their livelyhood. So much for democracy and freedom of speech. Meaningles words.

Yes, Leah, I ignore it because I was not born yesterday.