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4 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 1:35AM
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Amin, You message #9 was spot on.(In my humble opinion.) Habesor
Habesor
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4 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 1:33AM
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Char, You asked: "Maybe you can help us out and tell us when was the last time that Persians started a war. When A'jad is right, it must have been looooooong ago." In the 1950's and 60's the relations between Iraq and Iran were quite hostile. No war broke out between them because Iran always exercised clear military superiority over Iraq. Iran did press its territorial claims and received the lion's share of the compromise settlement that was made at the end of this period. During the entire time an arms race was taking place between the two powers that exceeded in both symmetry and quantity the arms race between Israel and its Arab neighbors. Most of the conflict between Iran and Iraq flew below the radar of the western media which focussed on the Arab-Israeli conflict. In the end, the Iranians did not start a war with Iraq because they achieved their aims without one. When the Ayatollahs took over they gutted the Iranian military establishment which gave Saddam Hussein his opening to attack Iran and reverse its political-territorial gains from the earlier period. Saddam miscalculated. Once obtaining his immediate goals, Saddam discovered that he had no real exit strategy from the war. In fact as the war went on neither side had an exist strategy and both saw the elimination of the other as their war aim. Char, I have no doubt that the current Iranian ruling clique hate the State of Israel. I have no doubt that they use such hatred to justify their position within Iran and to legitimize their nuclear program. I also have no doubt that other than Iranian hatred for Israel, there are no conflicts of interest between the two states. In fact, before the Ayatollahs and their hatred arrived on the scene, Israel and Iran had quite correct relations and more than a few shared national interests. Other than the hatred, Iran's real conflict of interest is between itself and its immediate neighbors including Shi'ite led Iraq. These neighbors have more to fear from the development of an Iranian nuclear weapon than does the State of Israel. In fact, if the USA ever acts to destroy the Iranian nuclear development sites, it will do so mainly to protect its own interests in the Arabian Peninsula and the Arabian/Persian Gulf and at the behest of the leaders of those states. Habesor
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 10:14AM
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Iran prefers cold war tactics to spread its influence... so far. Subversion and support of local partisans... in the case of the government of Lebanon (or Hezbollah we might call them)... the take over is done by local armed militias. Iran did not invent this tactic... and yes... despite all the warnings by experts... Bush did open the door to influence in Iran. This Gave Iran a new de facto empire stretching to the Mediterranean. Loss of Syria just as they have now been able to wait out the US in Iraq... would be completely intolerable to the Iranian regime... and will likely create more problems in Lebanon whose Hezbollah will have a hard time staying afloat without the Syrian backed coalition or logistics life line. The dominoes may be tumbling away from Iran... and Syria is the lynchpin.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 9:36AM
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Not a surprise to see 'Imperial Iran' trying to grab at Syria! While Russia grabs for Iran.....
>>>>>>>> I am not a fan of Iran but few facts should be remembered about it. I cannot recall Iran attacking any nations in last 50 years. The biggest help for Iran came from the USA!!! Yes, it was George Bush Jr who invaded Iraq for no good reason and installed a Iran leaning Shia ruler in it. So Iran's influence was enhanced by this Cowboy leader from Texas!! It would have taken Iran many decades to get so much command over Iraq but thanks to Dubya, it was "Done" for them. ;-) So now it is down to Iran and Israel and Saudi Arabia with wishes to "Influence" the region. Because of the recent Arab spring, this region is very open. Iran is only using Russia (Which sold weapon to Syria for years) to get some protection in this rough neighorhood. Nothing more than what Israel is doing with American blessings. Let us wait and see how things shape up in the future.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 9:26AM
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Perhaps you should read the history of Persia and the Arab world.
Maybe you can help us out and tell us when was the last time that Persians started a war.
When A'jad is right, it must have been looooooong ago.
>>>>>>>> Good question.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 9:17AM
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Perhaps you should read the history of Persia and the Arab world.
Maybe you can help us out and tell us when was the last time that Persians started a war.
When A'jad is right, it must have been looooooong ago.
“The problem with quotes on the Internet is
that it is hard to verify their authenticity”
- Abraham Lincoln.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 9:13AM
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Dos Perhaps you should read the history of Persia and the Arab world.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 7:21AM
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Not a surprise to see 'Imperial Iran' trying to grab at Syria! While Russia grabs for Iran.....
Knowing the history of America and European countries this is laughable**
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4 months ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 8:06PM
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Iran - friend to everyone everywhere props up the Assad regime. Well you know the old saying, "birds of a feather, flock together"
Iran increases presence in Syria
Revolutionary Guards, Hezbollah operatives aiding Assad's brutal crackdown on protesters now number in the hundreds
Ron Ben-Yishai
Iran has significantly increased its involvement in Syria over the past few days, Ynet learned Monday.
The presence of Iran's Revolutionary Guards and Hezbollah operatives assisting Syrian President Bashar Assad's in his brutal crackdown of protesters now number in the high hundreds; while the Arab League said that it will not supply the rebels with arms unless the bloodshed comes to a halt.
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Tehran has also increased the financial assistance it lends Damascus. It also maintains regular flights to the Syrian capital – a practice Arab League members have suspended due to the escalating violence.
Iran's financial aid is one of Assad's lifelines, as it keeps the middle class in Damascus and Halab (Aleppo) from rising against him as well.
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full article:
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-41897...
Reminds me of what happened in the Spanish Civil War and even Vietnam. Outside powers giving material and military support in an internal struggle. The Spanish Civil War was a dress rehearsal to World War 2.
For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.
St. Thomas Aquinas
If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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4 months ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 5:15PM
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Not a surprise to see 'Imperial Iran' trying to grab at Syria! While Russia grabs for Iran.....
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