Feb 23, 2012 -- 10:50PM, SherriMunnerlyn wrote:

Feb 18, 2012 -- 3:24PM, LeahOne wrote:

BDBoy, there's just one problem with that NBC article:  no identified source.  No US officials, not even a US agency, are named.  So there's NO WAY to check that 'information'.

The person who IS named and quoted is part of the Iranian government.  The people who voted *against* a simple UN resolution condemning Assad's murders of thousands of his civilians.....  Nice folks!

I'm not going to bother looking at every last little link you've loaded that quote with, either. 

Leah,

There is no defense for Israel's terrorist act in killing that scientist, none whatsoever.

And US Officials have confirmed Israel was behind it, in that story.

Sherri

PLease, Sherri - do stop this nonsense of 'answering' things I didn't say!  I'm not the slightest bit interested in 'defending' an action which I am not convinced was Israel's doing. 

And with no names attached, nothing is confirmed. 

Feb 18, 2012 -- 1:44PM, BDboy wrote:

Feb 14, 2012 -- 12:46PM, arielg wrote:

It’s just remarkable to watch the American media depict Iran as the threatening, aggressive party here. Literally on a daily basis, political and media figures in both the U.S. and Israel openly threaten to attack Iran and debate how the attack should happen with a casualness that most people use to contemplate what to have for lunch. The U.S. has orchestrated devastating and always-escalating sanctions which, by design, are wrecking the Iranian economy, collapsing its currency, and generating serious hardship for its 75 million citizens. The U.S. military has that country almost completely encircled. The U.S. military behemoth, and Israel’s massive nuclear stockpile and sophisticated weaponry, make the Iranian military by comparison look almost as laughable as Saddam’s. Iran’s scientists have been serially murdered on its own soil, their facilities bombarded with sophisticated cyber attacks, and dissident groups devoted to the overthrow of their government (ones even the U.S. designates as Terrorists) have been armed, trained and funded by Israel while leading American politicians openly shill for them in exchange for substantial payments.

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I used to find somewhat baffling this bizarre aspect of American public opinion: time and again, Americans support whatever new war of aggression their government proposes, then come to regret that support and decide the war was a "mistake," only to demonstrate that they learned no lessons from their "mistake" by eagerly supporting whatever the next proposed war is. Thus did the

widespread belief that Vietnam was a "mistake" have no impact on their support for the attack on Iraq, and now — with some polls showing Americans, before their government even proposes it, preliminarily willing to cheer on an attack on Iran — it is clear they have learned nothing from their acknowledged "mistake" in supporting the attack on Iraq. Most Americans continue with this strange mindset

www.salon.com/2012/02/14/us_media_takes_...

Here is an update on this story......

israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news

BDboy,

Now, we all know for a FACT it was Israel teaming up with a terrorist group, who was behind the terror attack and killing of the Iranian scientist.

The next question becomes why did these US government officials provide these FACTS to MSNBC.

What I suspect is the Obama Administration does not support an Israeli attack on Iran, and that is why this happened. Unfortunately, special interest groups deter Obama from stating his position in a more direct fashion.

When I look at the state of the US political system, I see why nations are reluctant to become democracies. 

Sherri

Guess I will have to eat my hat.

Security Council Press Statement on Attacks against Israeli Diplomatic Personnel

 

The following Security Council press statement was issued today by Council President Kodjo Menan (Togo):

The members of the Security Council condemned in the strongest terms the terrorist attack in New Delhi, India, aimed at Israel’s diplomatic personnel which resulted in injuries to diplomatic personnel and civilians, and the recent attempted terrorist attack in Tbilisi, Georgia.

The members of the Security Council reaffirmed that terrorism in all its forms and manifestations constitutes one of the most serious threats to peace and security, and that any acts of terrorism are criminal and unjustifiable regardless of their motivations, whenever and by whomsoever committed.

The members of the Security Council reaffirmed the need to combat by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and all obligations under international law, in particular international human rights, refugee and humanitarian law, threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts.

The members of the Security Council condemned the new and recurring acts of violence against diplomatic and consular representatives, which endanger or take innocent lives and seriously impede the normal work of such representatives and officials.

The members of the Security Council recalled the obligations on States, including under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations and the 1973 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Crimes against Internationally Protected Persons, including Diplomatic Agents.

The members of the Security Council underlined the need to bring perpetrators, organizers, financiers and sponsors of these reprehensible acts of terrorism to justice, and urged all States, in accordance with their obligations under international law and relevant Security Council resolutions, to cooperate actively with all relevant authorities in this regard.

www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/sc10556....

Feb 14, 2012 -- 12:46PM, arielg wrote:

It’s just remarkable to watch the American media depict Iran as the threatening, aggressive party here. Literally on a daily basis, political and media figures in both the U.S. and Israel openly threaten to attack Iran and debate how the attack should happen with a casualness that most people use to contemplate what to have for lunch. The U.S. has orchestrated devastating and always-escalating sanctions which, by design, are wrecking the Iranian economy, collapsing its currency, and generating serious hardship for its 75 million citizens. The U.S. military has that country almost completely encircled. The U.S. military behemoth, and Israel’s massive nuclear stockpile and sophisticated weaponry, make the Iranian military by comparison look almost as laughable as Saddam’s. Iran’s scientists have been serially murdered on its own soil, their facilities bombarded with sophisticated cyber attacks, and dissident groups devoted to the overthrow of their government (ones even the U.S. designates as Terrorists) have been armed, trained and funded by Israel while leading American politicians openly shill for them in exchange for substantial payments.

-----------------------------------

I used to find somewhat baffling this bizarre aspect of American public opinion: time and again, Americans support whatever new war of aggression their government proposes, then come to regret that support and decide the war was a "mistake," only to demonstrate that they learned no lessons from their "mistake" by eagerly supporting whatever the next proposed war is. Thus did the

widespread belief that Vietnam was a "mistake" have no impact on their support for the attack on Iraq, and now — with some polls showing Americans, before their government even proposes it, preliminarily willing to cheer on an attack on Iran — it is clear they have learned nothing from their acknowledged "mistake" in supporting the attack on Iraq. Most Americans continue with this strange mindset

www.salon.com/2012/02/14/us_media_takes_...

Here is an update on this story......

israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news

And that of course is a good reason to try to divert discussion from the attempted attack in Thailand upon diplomats, which *does* have evidence of Iranian involvement????

Since there IS evidence about the Thailand attack on diplomats - why not discuss that, Sherri?  Surely the general idea fits into this thread very well?